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Too aggressive?

Postby pnutbutr » Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:20 pm

Hey guys, been reading these forums for a while but havent posted. I want to know if this play was too agressive:

PLO $25
Table Table 37092 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: dfwplsnt ( $14.45 )
Seat 5: travoltalir ( $55.65 )
Seat 6: NBAndy ( $26.60 )
Seat 7: LLLaf ( $25.50 )
Seat 8: saltamore ( $94.45 )
Seat 10: pnutbutrq ( $23.40 )
Seat 9: OrangeBucket ( $23.45 )
Seat 1: daBigsausage ( $42.40 )
Seat 4: AmarilloPhat ( $24.75 )
Seat 3: bobbyel2000 ( $25 )
dfwplsnt posts small blind [$0.10].
bobbyel2000 is sitting out.
AmarilloPhat posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to pnutbutrq [ Ts 6h Ad Ah ]
NBAndy calls [$0.25].
LLLaf folds.
saltamore calls [$0.25].
OrangeBucket folds.
pnutbutrq calls [$0.25].
daBigsausage calls [$0.25].
dfwplsnt calls [$0.15].
AmarilloPhat checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qd, As, Th ]
dfwplsnt checks.
AmarilloPhat checks.
NBAndy checks.
saltamore checks.
pnutbutrq bets [$1.45].
daBigsausage calls [$1.45].
dfwplsnt folds.
AmarilloPhat folds.
NBAndy folds.
saltamore folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]
pnutbutrq bets [$4.20].
daBigsausage raises [$9].
pnutbutrq is all-In [$17.50]
daBigsausage folds.
pnutbutrq does not show cards.
pnutbutrq wins $34

Should I have just smooth called?
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:43 pm

Yep, small raises and especially small re-raises in PLO are usually a sign of major strength (especially on a board like that) so if he's a sensible opponent you're giving him every chance to fold a smaller boat or a straight. I like to call the turn and make a small lead on the river, either that or a full pot bet (which could confuse the hell out of him) if you think he might call. In this spot, if he's anything other than a solid, tight player (and even then) calling the turn then pot betting the river has a good chance of getting paid off - he'll find a smaller boat harder to put down and will probably call on the off chance that your unconventional stop-go play is a bluff.

I might also be less keen to bet out on the flop, as there's a very good chance that there's a KJ out, and you're then only drawing to 6 outs so would have to fold to a raise. Being in LP helps I guess as it suggests your opponents don't have straights (otherwise someone would probably have bet out); however, if you bet this flop and get check-raised you'll be kicking yourself for not taking the free card when it was on offer. An additional benefit of checking is that if a T or Q turns and you're up against someone with two pair (who probably won't call a flop bet) you stand to win a big pot.

Hope this helps; welcome to the forum!

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Postby pnutbutr » Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:50 pm

Thanks. It seemed like a good idea to push all the way but then immediately after the hand i relaized I was throwing away money.
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Postby briachek » Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:16 pm

i agree with monk althought it doesn't matter against most stupid opponents. If you had position, this is a definite call rather than a raise.
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