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Trips + nut flush draw + backdoor nut low

Postby GooperMC » Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:40 pm

***** Hand History for Game 2880224761 *****
$25 PL Omaha Hi/Lo - Wednesday, November 16, 23:50:36 EDT 2005
Table Table 36853 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: yessong1 ( $29.14 )
Seat 5: MmTurtleSoup ( $52.85 )
Seat 9: rabman49 ( $50.04 )
Seat 10: Pennybags ( $24.75 )
Seat 6: ngood0472 ( $6.01 )
Seat 7: peanutppoker ( $13.65 )
Seat 4: MacBBaby ( $10.15 )
Seat 3: koosharee ( $29.15 )
Seat 1: razorstoneaf ( $24.50 )
Seat 8: Pat691 ( $25 )
razorstoneaf posts small blind [$0.10].
yessong1 posts big blind [$0.25].
Pat691 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to MmTurtleSoup [ 7c Jc Ah 2h ]
koosharee calls [$0.25].
MacBBaby folds.
MmTurtleSoup calls [$0.25].
ngood0472 calls [$0.25].
peanutppoker folds.
Pat691 checks.
rabman49 calls [$0.25].
Pennybags calls [$0.25].
razorstoneaf folds.
yessong1 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, 9h, 7s ]
yessong1 checks.
koosharee checks.
MmTurtleSoup bets [$1.80].
ngood0472 calls [$1.80].
Pat691 raises [$9].
rabman49 folds.
Pennybags folds.
yessong1 folds.
koosharee folds.
MmTurtleSoup ????

Pat691 was a new player, just sat down and ngood0472 was a complete and total fish.

What do you do?
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Postby Kuso » Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:45 pm

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Postby JDLush » Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:57 pm

Wow, I don't know if I can dump that hand that quickly against an unknown on a $25 table. In fact, I dont think there's any way I could dump it there. I'd probably push it, if he has 99 then I'll roll the dice, but more often than not he has the case 7 and he won't have me dead on the low side, but it'll be close:

pokenum -o8 7c jc ah 2h - 9c 9s ks qd -- 7h 9h 7s
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing 7s 9h 7h
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
Jc 7c Ah 2h 45 45 775 0 160 0 0 0.152
Ks 9s 9c Qd 615 775 45 0 0 0 0 0.848

If he has 79 instead of 99 it's a bit better:

pokenum -o8 7c jc ah 2h - 9c 7d ks qd -- 7h 9h 7s
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing 7s 9h 7h
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
Jc 7c Ah 2h 195 195 625 0 160 0 0 0.335
Ks 9c Qd 7d 465 625 195 0 0 0 0 0.665

If he has either of the 2 there's no fold equity at all. If he has a 7 but hasn't boated then there's a bit, but not that much at $25 PLO8, so a case can be made for calling, but you gotta figure he's gonna pot it regardless of the turn, so either push or fold.

I'd proabably push 80% of the time, the other 20% is reserved for known rocks.
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Postby JDLush » Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:26 am

Yeah, I should have paid better attention to the history, a call is correct with someone still to act.

At $25 he could be potting with almost anything, I think he's got a bare 7 enough times to warrant almost never folding.
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