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Postby TexasKowboy » Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:20 pm

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Postby eDgar » Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:57 pm

throw her away.. i like how you said "her". I think ate has a certain rule about the ladies. not sure if hes shared that info yet.
i'll let him answer
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well, this REALLY is not very specific

Postby AdamtheExpert » Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:22 pm

Ok, Kowboy, you may not know the rules of ATE: NO PLUCKIN' Abbreviations!! What the hell is "ITM" I will not rack my brain, trying to figure this out.

Since you only asked a GENERAL question, I will give a GENERAL answer:


Like walking through a minefield: VERY CAREFUL, WATCH your %^@%^@#%^ing step.


back in 1992, ESKIMO (have you seen him on TV, win a big one?) Was teaching ATE the basic principles of no limit hold em. Prior to then, I had only played limit.
Yeah, ATE knows Eskimo. Anyway, I'll always (and you should to) remember his famous lesson to me:

"In no limit, there are only two hands, when the bet is big. The BIG hand, and the LITTLE hand. Aces are the big hand. Kings are the little hand."

So, I guess you can see where queens rank, if KK is the "little hand"


Actually, ATE feels that KK is almost always suitable for calling a big bet, because of the way people are playing tournaments nowadays. People just LOOOOOOOOOVE Ace king, and WILL make hugely irrational raises with it.

Of course, if you are studying the game, as you should, you'll know that


KK is 70-30 over AK


BUT!!!

QQ, is only about a 56-44 favorite, over AK

So, even if you get LUCKY, and are ONLY up against AK, they still have a very good chance to KICK YOUR BUTT


It's very hard to get big action, against someone that's a big underdog to you, with QQ.


I would play QQ, the same way as any other pair that you intend to play.


Open for about 3-4x big blind, and be prepared to DUMP against a big raise. Unless you have good player notes, and are up against a crazed action raiser.

Their is merit, to just limping, and hoping to bust someone, when you flop a set.



Later on, when the blinds get big and you are a short stack, you can play QQ more aggressivly. People who are also short-stacked, may give you "despiration action" or feel that you are just trying to steal the blinds.


But, : "In situtations where action cannot be expected, except from better hands, and.or AK, you must proceed with caution, as though your QQ was only 99.


Don't forget, ATE lesson blocks are available





P.S. Noooooooo, I'm not making this Edgar guy up, he's real


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Postby eDgar » Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:40 pm

my name is edgar with a capital D.. just kiddin.
adam, who said ya made me up?
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Postby TexasKowboy » Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:09 am

Thanks for the response Adam the Expert. Your right I didn't know the rule but now I stand corrected. I figured if anyone knew what ITM meant it would be Adam the Expert. ITM = In the Money.

Seriously thanks for re-enforcing what I already knew. This last weekend I kept dancing with the ladies and they kept leaving me high and dry.

Oh BTW errrrrrrrrrrrrr I mean by the way is this edger guy with a capital D for real or you just making him up?
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Kowboy you a Cowman?

Postby eDgar » Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:10 am

what the hell... why would you think i was actually him. cause i support him.? and happen to know alot about him.
we've spoken on numerous occasions. met around nov.. and stayed in contact. I live in a place he use to stay/work. I've yet to meet him however.
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Postby TexasKowboy » Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:28 am

I was just making a joke eDgar. I know you are real and very knowledgeable. I threw that in there because I didn't know where that came from in ATE's response.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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Postby eDgar » Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:31 am

oh, i apologize. I think everyone is paranoid like adam.
I'm pretty damn paranoid too
I could be ate's long lost son. just kiddin!
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Postby eDgar » Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:34 am

appreciate the capital D btw :D. any reason for the K instead of C? I've become quite intrigued by the names here. I'm sure Cowboy wasn't taken.
might aswell snatch up your real name while its availible.
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Postby TexasKowboy » Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:49 pm

K is for my poker side standing for Kings. I also use TexasKowboy on all at all my poker sites. Plus I have always liked being a little different.

Speaking of names. Last night playing on BoDog in the $4000 MTT who joins one of my tables but Iceman55. I guess it would be an honor to have people jacking your name but it would piss me off.
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Re: Kowboy you a Cowman?

Postby Nashvegas » Tue Dec 14, 2004 1:03 am

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Postby eDgar » Tue Dec 14, 2004 1:14 am

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LET'S STOP WITH ANY REMARKS, THAT I MAKE PEOPLE UP

Postby AdamtheExpert » Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:35 am

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Postby tetsuo » Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:23 am

See how easy a topic gets tracked way off-base?

The last 8 posts have had zero to do with playing QQ in MTTs.

eDgar and AdamTheExpert are definitively not the same person, and this is easy to see by looking at their IP addresses.

Let's stick to poker, guys!

[I may remove the posts that have nothing to do with the topic title at a later date]
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