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NL10 FR, would you call this river bet?

Postby Yenool » Sun May 21, 2006 1:16 pm

No real reads but min raiser preflop is raising a lot 28% ish, usually the minimum raise.

Total number of players : 10


Total number of players : 10
Seat 10: WntYaMny ( $10 )
Seat 1: jonnyyen ( $9.05 )
Seat 2: Lorro05 ( $8.8 )

Seat 3: Daik ( $4.11 )
Seat 4: dedmonay ( $10.9 )
Seat 5: TLC488 ( $14.7 )
Seat 6: ama0330 ( $13.55 )
Seat 7: ishark14 ( $5 )
Seat 8: Zaku ( $8.7 )
Seat 9: Yenool ( $12.55 )

Yenool posts small blind [$0.05].
WntYaMny posts big blind [$0.1].
Daik posts big blind [$0.1].
ishark14 posts big blind [$0.1].

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Yenool [Qc] [Kd]
jonnyyen raises [$0.2].
Lorro05 calls [$0.2].
Daik calls [$0.1].
dedmonay folds.
TLC488 folds.
ama0330 folds.
ishark14 folds.
Zaku folds.
Yenool calls [$0.15].
WntYaMny folds.

** Dealing Flop ** [Qd] [Td], [Jd] ($1)
Yenool checks.
jonnyyen bets [$0.1].
Lorro05 calls [$0.1].
Daik folds.
Yenool calls [$0.1].

** Dealing Turn ** [6c] ($1.30)

Yenool bets [$1].
jonnyyen calls [$1].
Lorro05 calls [$1].

** Dealing River ** [3h] ($4.30)

Yenool checks.
jonnyyen bets [$2.75].
Lorro05 calls [$2.75].
Yenool calls [$2.75].

A bad call or what? I raise the turn because I have the flush draw, straight draw and top pair, but I'm not too happy that they both call to be honest, I check the river thinking I will call a small bet, considering they are both donkish loose and aggressive and not able to fold anything... anyway, he makes a big bet and I quickly call anyway, as I just can't put one of them on AK or the made flush.

So what would you do and why, and what do they have that I can beat?
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Re: NL10 FR, would you call this river bet?

Postby healeycopter » Sun May 21, 2006 1:54 pm

A bad call or what? I raise the turn because I have the flush draw, straight draw and top pair, but I'm not too happy that they both call to be honest, I check the river thinking I will call a small bet, considering they are both donkish loose and aggressive and not able to fold anything... anyway, he makes a big bet and I quickly call anyway, as I just can't put one of them on AK or the made flush.

So what would you do and why, and what do they have that I can beat?

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You: QcKd
Board: [Qd] [Td][Jd][6c][3h]

Even despite their bad table images, I am folding to that bet. Especially since there is a caller in front of me, who must have at least something to call.

What you CAN'T beat:

AK, K9, 89 (straight)
AQ (better kicker than you)
QJ QT Q6 Q3 (two pair)
Any two diamonds (flush)

With two opponents I guess you lost this hand. If not I want a seat at this game!!
I would be inclined to bet/raise the flop here (for the same reasons you bet the turn), and see where I stand. Be ready to fold if they play back hard. (*)

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Postby Yenool » Sun May 21, 2006 3:01 pm

result is below...

Well, I don't know why I called it, it was one of those moments where I just did it, all I was thinking was do they have the flush or AK, I didn't really think about two pair, k9... etc etc. lol

I would like to get a few more replies, surely I'm not the only one bad enough to call this? lol





RESULT:

jonnyyen shows [9d] [9s]. a pair of nines.
Lorro05 shows [Jc] [8d]. a pair of jacks.
Yenool wins $11.95 from the main pot with [Qc] [Kd] , a pair of queens.
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Postby Danhdan » Sun May 21, 2006 4:59 pm

Overcalling on river bets in NL = BADBADBAD with only TPGK on that crazy board. But, if you know both players are playing horrendous and betting out and calling with very little, I could see it. But, these two would have to be top class donks for me to justify this.
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Postby Stoneburg » Sun May 21, 2006 5:38 pm

Fold preflop.
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Postby Yenool » Sun May 21, 2006 11:54 pm

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