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Beat on the River Again...am i doing something wrong?

Postby Thxlbx » Sun May 28, 2006 11:30 pm

Villian raised 4xBB preflop, so I put him on 10-10 up to A-A...which is what he had..beat me on the river, should I have pushed after his initial raise, would that have made a difference?

PokerStars Game #5085459816: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2006/05/29 - 01:13:55 (ET)
Table 'Merga III' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Thxlbx ($9.85 in chips)
Seat 2: DaRKHoRSe222 ($10.55 in chips)
Seat 3: barry0020 ($2.25 in chips)
Seat 4: devon06atX ($11.40 in chips)
Seat 5: Signs ($5.50 in chips)
Seat 6: pawnpusherOo ($15.15 in chips)
Seat 7: BENZRULES ($18.65 in chips)
Seat 8: Weazle ($9.40 in chips)
Seat 9: FarmerTim ($3.95 in chips)
pawnpusherOo: posts small blind $0.05
BENZRULES: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Thxlbx [3s 3c]
Weazle: raises $0.30 to $0.40
FarmerTim: folds
Thxlbx: calls $0.40
DaRKHoRSe222: folds
barry0020: folds
devon06atX: folds
Signs: calls $0.40
pawnpusherOo: calls $0.35
BENZRULES: calls $0.30
*** FLOP *** [3d 5s 2s]
pawnpusherOo: checks
BENZRULES: checks
Weazle: bets $1.70
Thxlbx: raises $1.70 to $3.40
Signs: folds
pawnpusherOo has timed out
pawnpusherOo: folds
pawnpusherOo is sitting out
BENZRULES: folds
pawnpusherOo has returned
Weazle: raises $5.60 to $9 and is all-in
Thxlbx: calls $5.60
*** TURN *** [3d 5s 2s] [6h]
*** RIVER *** [3d 5s 2s 6h] [Ah]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Weazle: shows [As Ac] (three of a kind, Aces)
Thxlbx: mucks hand
Weazle collected $19.05 from pot
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Postby shobute » Sun May 28, 2006 11:33 pm

Your question makes no sense.
You're making lots of money when he puts money in.
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Postby Danhdan » Sun May 28, 2006 11:36 pm

You got all the money in as a pretty good favorite...good time are ahead when you win these "races".
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Postby Thxlbx » Sun May 28, 2006 11:38 pm

I probably just need to hear that....it just seems for the last week or so I am losing in this situation several times, so I was just looking to see if I am missing something obvious. I seem to be winning small pots lately, and losing big ones.
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Postby Danhdan » Sun May 28, 2006 11:51 pm

"Million dollar play, ten cent finish."

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Postby Thxlbx » Sun May 28, 2006 11:55 pm

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Postby rickjr82 » Mon May 29, 2006 12:31 am

bet the current pot=never a bad place to start
get your money in good and even if you are a 90% favorite you will still lose 1 out of 10 times.
your goal is to have as many of those situations as possible and it will even out, just try to get as much in as possible when they happen.
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Postby Thxlbx » Mon May 29, 2006 12:35 am

I think I need to get back to betting the pot, I would always bet the pot at the 5NL level, and would get called much more often...at 10NL so far, everyone seems to fold when I have a set and bet the pot, not sure if it is my image or what. Maybe instead of betting less trying to get calls I should just bet the pot and if everyone folds, collect what I can, and try to avoid big losses. I do not want to play weak tight scared either.
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Postby EscapePlan9 » Mon May 29, 2006 1:22 am

STOP THE MIN-RAISES, OMG!!! STOP IT!!!

You got him all-in on the flop as the MAJOR favorite - he only would improve 20% of the time by the river. Be happy. Try not to be results oriented here.
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Postby Thxlbx » Mon May 29, 2006 1:30 am

Thanks for the advice, am scrubbing the min raise from my current strategy, looking back, I hardly ever min raised at 5NL and have done much more at 10NL due to everyone folding when I bet the pot or larger on a big hand. I am going to bet strong, and take what comes.

Edit: This hand I posted put me down a buy-in right away when I started playing tonight. After reading some posts here and betting more, I can happily say that I won it back plus another 1/2 buy-in to end up on the plus side for the evening. I think the min-raise had become a weak leak in my game, hopefully closing it will lead to more success. Thanks again everybody!
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Postby kennyg » Mon May 29, 2006 2:32 am

yeah... seroiusly mini raise needs to go. i use it maybe twice a month in special situations. i don't see any of the regulars on 5/10 doing it either (at least the good ones.)

As for the hand, when the money went in he was drawing to 6 outs (2 aces, 4 fours.) Can't ask for better in that. great long term win.
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Postby Thxlbx » Mon May 29, 2006 2:39 am

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Postby Thxlbx » Mon May 29, 2006 11:39 am

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Postby Thxlbx » Mon May 29, 2006 11:47 pm

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who commented on this hand. I was dealt pocket 3's again tonight, flopped a set, but instead of min raising I bet the pot and then reraised all in...and won. Actually had a very nice 2 hour run in 10NL, winning almost two buy-ins...and I did not min raise once. Not sure how I got on the min raise train in the first place, but I sure as hell am off of it now. Thanks again everybody!
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