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Postby SNGNOOB » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:52 am

I thought about this hand for a while before calling, do you call or fold?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) from (Format: Bet The Pot)

UTG ($53.90)
UTG+1 ($123.70)
MP1 ($60.35)
MP2 ($46.60)
MP3 ($49.25)
CO ($56.25)
Button ($33.85)
Hero ($48.50)
BB ($84.55)

Preflop: Hero is SB with [Qs], [Qc].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.50, 3 folds, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2.50, MP2 calls $2.50.

Flop: ($9.50) [6d], [9h], [4d] (3 players)
Hero bets $10, UTG+1 raises to $83.5, MP2 folds, Hero calls $35.50 (All-In).

Turn: ($138.50) [3h] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($138.50) [8c] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $138.50
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Postby Zmej » Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:15 am

Leave the table preflop.
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Postby Yenool » Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:19 am

That is a massive re-raise from UTG +1, it really looks as though he is trying to protect something, unless he has [8d] [7d] or something. TT and JJ seem possible, so is KK, AA, or any set.

What kind of play is UTG+1 ? What hand does he limp call with? Does he like to get all- involved with over pairs on flops like that?

This looks like a fold situation, QQ is so weak and if you are running bad then you really don't need to take risks. You are getting 3-1? to call tho..
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Postby Danhdan » Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:53 am

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Postby SNGNOOB » Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:31 am

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Postby Danhdan » Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:47 am

"Million dollar play, ten cent finish."

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Postby SNGNOOB » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:16 am

Yeah I've slept a bit already. Anyway he had :[6c] :[4s]
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Postby Jarren » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:23 am

how about stop calling all-ins with a pair. That would help

I would say about half your posts are you overplaying pairs, or calling all-ins with an overpair. you need to go back into PT and evaluate your last 50 hands with AA-TT and see how you are playing them and how many times you have called all-ins with overpairs
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Postby SNGNOOB » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:58 am

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Postby Jarren » Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:09 am

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Postby Yenool » Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:31 am

I don't mean to Hijack, but Jarren's post is really good. I am saving that one for myself.

I too stack off with an over-pair way too often, I really think the sign of a good player is being able to lay down AA-JJ on a raggy flop, at the end of the day I would rather be laying down the best hand than losing a buyin with one pair.

With all the other donks out there you get implied odds from playing small pairs yourself, so why just give that edge right back.
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Postby SNGNOOB » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:00 am

Good points you mentioned that I never thought about. But how do I know if the person woudlnt make the same play with TT, JJ, QQ, or even KK and AA?
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Postby Jarren » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:21 am

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