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Postby platypus » Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:20 am

Belong in my bad hands file? villain is 22%VPIP, 1%PFR, 21.95% went to showdown. Claims he had a flush draw. I think he's just trying to promote a less rockish image. I mean that K would scare the sense out of me if I didn't have a set or AK. Maybe I'm just too green at 100NL. I've narrowed this down to bad or terrible, if terrible it goes in my file.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) from (Format: Bet The Pot)

UTG+2 ($100)
MP1 ($52.40)
Hero ($98.50)
MP3 ($48.26)
CO ($147.66)
Button ($113.80)
SB ($98)
BB ($335.08)
UTG ($38)
UTG+1 ($217.21)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with [As], [Qh]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) [6d], [4c], [7c] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $8, UTG+1 calls $8.

Turn: ($27.50) [Kh] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $24, UTG+1 raises to $69.69, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $121.19
Main Pot: $75.50, won by UTG+1.
Pot 2: $45.69, returned to UTG+1.
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:37 am

Firing that turn is usuallly a bad play long term...
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Postby Zmej » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:13 am

Honestly, I check this flop a lot of times (if he checks turn I will CB any turn), it is coordinated flop that didn't help you and any PP, any 5, and flush draw is going to call. Then you are stuck on turn as firing a second barrel is expensive and he could still call with a draw, and then he has odds to call your river bet on turn with all kind of hands.

IMO on Party second barrel is a spewage.
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Postby Yenool » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:49 am

I would check behind the turn, hope to catch my ace on the river and call a v. small bet.

A stacked up 22% vip player with a low pfr & WTSD 21.95%, yet he limp calls you from UTG. He could even have a really badly played AA here... AK possible, more likely a set. . No way does he have a flush draw.

A very expensive CB mistake I think, just check the turn,
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Postby Runner_Runner » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:56 pm

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Postby black_knight6 » Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:16 pm

Don't fire at this flop a second time...first CB is FINE...but a 2nd bullet is a terrible idea. If they're on a draw, they're certainly not folding, and they may have a draw AND a piece. Low limit NL online means usually a bad idea to fire 2nd bullets...especially into big draw boards.
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