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Postby TheMoose15 » Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:41 pm

I play around 12/4/3 at the 50$NL tables and last night was a serious rapefest. I recalled reading a post a few days ago with black_knight and iceman talking about how TAGs should never swing. I consider my self a semi-above average player who turns a medium sized profit. I am no poker prodigy or anything, but sometimes nothing goes right. Here a couple of the fine examples from my session last night around 1500 hands, where my biggest losing hands were KK,QQ,JJ. LOL. Also I don't claim to have played them all to perfection I was getting a tad bit frustrated by the end of it.

In no particular order here we go!

Hand 1:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) from (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($95.75)
SB ($81.55)
BB ($20.55)
Hero ($50)
MP1 ($16)
MP2 ($29.85)
CO ($17.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with AImage, AImage.
Hero raises to $2, 5 folds, BB raises to $3.5, Hero calls $1.50.

Flop: ($7.25) TImage, QImage, 9Image (2 players)
BB bets $3, Hero raises to $10, BB calls $7.

Turn: ($27.25) KImage (2 players)
BB bets $7.05 (All-In), Hero calls $7.05.

River: ($41.35) 2Image (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $41.35

Results in white below:
BB has Kc Td (two pair, kings and tens).
Hero has Ac Ah (one pair, aces).
Outcome: BB wins $41.35.


Pretty solid way to start it out nah really your K10 is good.

Hand 2:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) from (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($29.60)
UTG ($81.70)
UTG+1 ($21.15)
MP1 ($20)
Hero ($62.55)
MP3 ($49.70)
CO ($17.50)
Button ($20.60)
SB ($24.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with QImage, QImage.
3 folds, Hero raises to $2, MP3 calls $2, 4 folds.

Flop: ($4.75) 2Image, 6Image, 8Image (2 players)
Hero bets $3, MP3 calls $3.

Turn: ($10.75) QImage (2 players)
Hero bets $7, MP3 calls $7.

River: ($24.75) 9Image (2 players)
Hero bets $14, MP3 calls $14.

Final Pot: $52.75

Results in white below:
Hero has Qh Qs (three of a kind, queens).
MP3 has Tc Jc (straight, queen high).
Outcome: MP3 wins $52.75.


First of 2 hands where I lose with top set. Ya my turn bet is weaksauce and I fully agree I was being a bitch. No idea how this kid didn't stack me I was fully ready to call it all off.

Hand 3:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) from (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP1 ($19.75)
MP2 ($30.50)
CO ($12.50)
Hero ($52.50)
SB ($22.55)
BB ($69)
UTG ($18.60)
UTG+1 ($17.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with KImage, KImage.
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3.5, 2 folds, UTG calls $3, MP1 calls $3, MP2 folds.

Flop: ($11.75) KImage, JImage, 8Image (3 players)
UTG checks, MP1 bets $2, Hero raises to $13, UTG raises to $15.1, MP1 folds, Hero calls $2.10.

Turn: ($43.95) 3Image (2 players)

River: ($43.95) 4Image (2 players)

Final Pot: $43.95

Results in white below:
UTG has 2c Ac (flush, ace high).
Hero has Kc Kh (three of a kind, kings).
Outcome: UTG wins $43.95.


Kids are just giving me money very frustrating...

Hand 4:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) from (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($74.85)
UTG ($28.40)
UTG+1 ($48)
MP1 ($6.55)
MP2 ($105.15)
CO ($66.35)
Button ($18.05)
SB ($61.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with KImage, KImage.
UTG calls $0.50, 4 folds, Button calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.5, UTG calls $2, Button calls $2.

Flop: ($7.75) 9Image, 2Image, 6Image (3 players)
Hero bets $6, UTG folds, Button calls $6.

Turn: ($19.75) 8Image (2 players)
Hero bets $10, Button calls $9.55 (All-In).

River: ($39.30) 5Image (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $39.30

Results in white below:
Hero has Kh Ks (one pair, kings).
Button has 9h 7s (straight, nine high).
Outcome: Button wins $38.85. Hero wins $0.44.


As soon as I got this one allin on the turn I had a sinking feeling, oh wait he has 97o hahaha damn I still lost... LOL

Hand 5:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) from (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($19.95)
BB ($19.50)
UTG ($50.90)
Hero ($58.55)
MP1 ($60.20)
MP2 ($59.25)
CO ($36.35)
Button ($19.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with JImage, JImage.
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, MP1 calls $2, 1 fold, CO calls $2, 3 folds.

Flop: ($6.75) 2Image, KImage, 2Image (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($6.75) JImage (3 players)
Hero bets $3, MP1 calls $3, CO folds.

River: ($12.75) QImage (2 players)
Hero bets $8, MP1 raises to $30, Hero raises to $53.55, MP1 calls $23.55.

Final Pot: $119.85

Results in white below:
Hero has Js Jd (full house, jacks full of twos).
MP1 has Ks Kd (full house, kings full of twos).
Outcome: MP1 wins $119.85.


Sweet I can win back a stack, oh no he reraised...lol...

Hand 6:

Just to give you an idea of these guys utter donkitude this is a pot I won that basically offset all of the above BS.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) from (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($51.80)
UTG+1 ($14.35)
MP1 ($88.50)
MP2 ($71.55)
MP3 ($39.75)
CO ($61.05)
Button ($39.45)
SB ($47.70)
Hero ($54.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with AImage, AImage.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $2, MP1 calls $2, 3 folds, Button calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $7, UTG+1 raises to $14.35, MP1 calls $12.35, Button folds, Hero raises to $54.45, MP1 calls $40.10.

Flop: ($125.50) 4Image, KImage, 9Image (3 players)

Turn: ($125.50) 3Image (3 players)

River: ($125.50) 2Image (3 players)

Final Pot: $125.50

Results in white below:
Hero has Ad As (one pair, aces).
UTG+1 has Ac Kc (one pair, kings).
MP1 has Th Tc (one pair, tens).
Outcome: Hero wins $125.50.



So, I only ended up down 1 buyin, which I find quite amazing given the level of rape incurred upon me. This kind of stuff happens to me quite often I find. If my premium hands are not holding up I simply get destroyed since that is all I am playing. I had KK - 12 times and won 50% with it all of the other pots are basically taking down the blinds. I really don't understand it, I realize it's variance, but cmon one after another makes me want to cry. If anyone does bother to read this thanks for your time! If you are ever in a pot with me remeber your 97o = GOOD.

-Moose
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Postby NorthView » Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:07 pm

LOL Moose. I'm with you on the variance thing. I don't know how BK and Ice manage to keep their poker graphs so straight, maybe they're just luck SOBs?! Mine's more like the uphill section of a roller coaster ride.

EDIT I'm a 16/4 TAG/UAG
Mon May 12, 2008 1:46 am
When I play a patient and relaxed game I win - that simple.

Mon May 12, 2008 10:55 pm
Seriously, fuck poker.
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[21:03] NorthViewBTP: mac is a fellow mexican
[21:03] Mekosking: yup
[21:03] NorthViewBTP: you should support your bro
[21:03] Mekosking: therefore hes a fat worthless tsr obv
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Postby TheMoose15 » Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:26 pm

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