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Postby legendary loser » Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:43 pm

I always get in trouble when I have JJ in early position. I seem to run into players slow playing big pairs. Anyway here is a hand from today. I raise to $2.50 UTG w/ JJ and this is seen 4 way. The flop is 556 w/ 2 diamonds. I bet $10 (pot) and I am called by one player who is all in for $5 and another player for $10. The turn is an 8. What do you do here? The main pot is at $25 and the side pot is at $6 or so. Do you check fold to a decent bet? Or do you lead out and fold to a re raise? Suggestions are appreciated.
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Postby Johnny Hughes » Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:31 pm

I'd check. What hands did you put him on?
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Postby legendary loser » Wed Dec 01, 2004 4:15 pm

I was not very specific with the details of the hand, but my stack was $65 and he had a stack of $50. Anyway, on the turn I had no idea what I wanted to do. The pot is about $30 and any bet that is less than $15-$20 will probably be raised. I checked and he bet $15. I really had no idea what he had. I figure he can have any PP above an 8, but would re-raise w/ KK and AA. I played way too fast and re raised all him. He had KK.
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Postby TexasKowboy » Wed Dec 01, 2004 4:34 pm

JJ is hard to get away from when the flop is all under cards. That said KK also got lucky slow playing his Cowboys. I don't believe in slow playing KK or AA. I would have re-raised preflop and put you all in post flop. Whats to say you didn't hit a set. Oh I know how he knows you didn't hit a set. Checking after the turn did nothing but show weakness. Once you checked the turn you told him you were on a draw or had a smaller PP.

You know your mistake without asking. That was playing to fast. I would have lost also but i would have bet the turn for another $10 if that is the bet I make after the flop.

If your willing to call all in the beat the other player to it and make him call you.

This last statement is really a thread of it's own but one of the main weaknesses of a lot of NLHE ring players is greed! They want to win all the money on every hand. Nothing wrong with that if it works out. But if you don't have he hand your going to lose more then you win.

I would rather win consistantly and progressively then win one all in only to give it back on the next all in.
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