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100NL = boys 200NL= men??

Postby WayToGo » Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:26 pm

Well i moved up to 200NL and gave myself 5 buyins to screw around with and make things work. Just everytime i played there i'm getting check/raised and all kinda stuff that hardly ever happens at 100NL, i would like some generic advice and thoughts on the following hands..


I played 9.2 hours over there and i'm at -23.58 PTBB/100 so it raised some questions in my head. it isn't all bad play variance plays a role but certainly not all of it. Definately

Guy is 40/20/4 and has been my nemesis throughout this 1 hour of play
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed)

Hero ($200)
BB ($244.20)
UTG ($179.25)
UTG+1 ($238.99)
UTG+2 ($203)
MP1 ($201.30)
MP2 ($57)
MP3 ($173.72)
CO ($107.50)
Button ($88.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with [Qh], [Ah]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $8, 2 folds, MP2 calls $8, 3 folds, Hero (poster) calls $7, BB calls $6.

I'm outta position but i felt vs someone with those stats there is nothing wrong with calling. I'm a favorite over his range right?

Flop: ($32) [As], [Ac], [6h] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets $8, MP2 folds, Hero calls $8, BB folds.

0h0h i hit hard, really hard but his 8$ bet is just not him and it seems monster/bluff.

Turn: ($48) [Kc] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

If he has AK he allready has me beat, i'm in check call mode on this turn.

River: ($48) [Qs] (2 players)
Hero bets $25, UTG+1 raises to $65, Hero calls $40.

How is my line i felt like a pussy while playing it.

Final Pot: $178

Same guy, did i make him bluff or is that an obvious value bet?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed)

Hero ($197)
SB ($248.65)
BB ($193.25)
UTG ($147.24)
UTG+1 ($186.85)
UTG+2 ($206.30)
MP1 ($200)
MP2 ($180.42)
MP3 ($124.50)
CO ($97.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with [Qs], [Qd]. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls $2, 4 folds, Hero raises to $10, 2 folds, UTG calls $8, UTG+2 folds.

Flop: ($25) [4d], [Kh], [8s] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $20, UTG calls $20.

Turn: ($65) [5s] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($65) [7s] (2 players)
UTG bets $35, Hero calls $35.


Final Pot: $135

Call or Fold, no reads on vilian?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed)

Button ($134.25)
SB ($186)
BB ($200)
Hero ($212.30)
UTG+1 ($212.63)
MP1 ($174.21)
MP2 ($208.85)
MP3 ($440.75)
CO ($193)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with [Qd], [Qc]. SB posts a blind of $1.
Hero raises to $8, 5 folds, Button calls $8, 2 folds.

Flop: ($19) [4c], [Jd], [9c] (2 players)
Hero bets $14, Button calls $14.

Turn: ($47) [9h] (2 players)
Hero bets $30, Button calls $134.25 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $211.25

They're probably really obvious hands but the bet sizes screw my head still and it hurts my self confidence running so bad at the next level, doesn't exactly make me play better..
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:40 pm

Hand 1 is just fuggly... Don't call a raise OOP w/ AQ... If you DO and hit trips, bet the goddamn thing... Not sure about the river, as I thinkk it's likely he has KK there and you coulda stacked him... Or AK and you're dead.. or MEH... Stop callin raises OOP w/ AQ... Problem solved...

Hand 2 is fine... I'd call that river and expect to lose a decent amount of time... I'd bet $3 he has KQ...

Hand 3... no reads, I can't call that... Youre behind a buttload of hands, and only ahead of AJ... I'd bet a little closer to pot on the flop though...
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Postby iceman5 » Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:55 pm

#1) Fine up until when he raised the river. Im pushing in every time.

#2) Fold the river.

#3) Fold to the all in


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Postby shobute » Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:02 pm

Hand 1: Reraising >>>> folding > calling. After that flop, get more money in.

Hand 2: Easy river fold. There's no draw on that flop and very few players will float you OOP in a full ring game, unless they suck or you have a crazy image.

Hand 3: Looks like a call for 2:1.
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:14 pm

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Postby iceman5 » Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:38 pm

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Postby WayToGo » Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:29 am

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Postby dropthe72 » Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:13 pm

i woulda pushed the second nuts on the river for hand one. (to be honest I suspected kk, ak gets my stack every time here).

fold river for hand two.

I think I woulda called hand three.
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Postby Danhdan » Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:07 pm

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Postby SNGfan » Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:46 pm

On hand 2 I was thinking about hands like middle pair (A8s) or 99/TT (JJ would probably raise)

I was thinking calling the river is standard. I guess Im way off. Good thing I can learn here instead of at the table.
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