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Postby stickdude » Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:40 am

I can't get any of the converters to take this one, so you'll have to live with it. Villian here had been raising quite a few hands pre-flop but I hadn't seen him really get out of line postflop - most of those were multiway pots postflop, so he might have been more aggressive heads-up.

I was playing Omaha last night and this morning to finish off my Empire bonus after a brutal drubbing in $1/$2 6max, so I wasn't raising anything pre-flop - just see the flop as cheaply as possible and go from there.

***** Hand History for Game 4767800980 *****
$25 PL Omaha - Thursday, July 20, 09:42:40 ET 2006
Table Cleared Hot (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: beachin17 ( $25.55 )
Seat 3: lajk49 ( $6.28 )
Seat 5: cash_98 ( $8.68 )
Seat 6: Raisor_ ( $42.10 )
Seat 7: huailihong ( $5 )
Seat 8: saltamore ( $8.40 )
Seat 9: bjiam ( $1.67 )
Seat 10: Lordie13 ( $17.76 )
Seat 4: stickdude90 ( $30.96 )
Seat 1: PLOITH ( $24.75 )
Raisor_ posts small blind [$0.10].
huailihong posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to stickdude90 [ [8c] [Ks] [9c] [Kh] ]
saltamore folds.
bjiam calls [$0.25].
PLOITH folds.
beachin17 calls [$0.25].
lajk49 calls [$0.25].
stickdude90 calls [$0.25].
cash_98 folds.
Raisor_ raises [$1.65].
huailihong folds.
bjiam is all-In.
beachin17 folds.
lajk49 folds.
stickdude90 calls [$1.50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ [5c], [8h], [6c] ]
Raisor_ bets [$5.67].
stickdude90 calls [$5.67].
** Dealing Turn ** [ [Kd] ]
Raisor_ bets [$16.41].
stickdude90 ????


Now I've got top set + small flush draw against a possible straight (and my gut instinct at the time was that he had it). There's a good chance I've got the best hand here. If he's got the straight, I've got a lot of outs on the river (assuming my FD is live). The worst possible hand he could have is a straight + higher flush draw...

I don't think just calling is really an option, since I'd have about $7 behind in a near $50 pot, and there's nothing that could hit on the river that would make me fold top set with those numbers. So, it's either push or fold.
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Postby briachek » Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:52 am

your decision is on the flop. If you are gonna call the flop and get pretty much your best card on the turn, you can't fold now. Does he CB a lot when he raises preflop even on a flop like this without the straight? He could have AA with nut flush draw and you just sucked out. Read dependent but i'm not folding that turn if I see it.
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Postby Ojingo » Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:53 am

If this is the raisor I know from UB, then there's no way I'm folding. He's a regular at the $400's and $1000s, and occasionally likes to show off at the lower games, where he thinks he can bully everyone around.

On the turn it doesn't really matter; you're only in bad shape if he has both a straight and a better flush draw, but more often than not you have excellent odds to call. The remaining $7 is going in regardless on the river. Note that if you didn't have a set of kings (and thus showdown value) you should just call. Occasionally you'll find your opponent has a big draw and folds to a tiny river bet when he misses everything.

However, your flop play is the interesting part of the hand. Anyone else who finds a flat call dubious here? Surely you can't call a pot bet with just a 9hi flush draw there? I'm not sure if this is the board to float with the intention of taking it down later... I guess against most opponents I fold the flop. Even against an overaggressive player with a completely random hand you're not too much of a favorite...
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Postby stickdude » Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:02 pm

"My name is Inigo Montoya. You cracked my Aces... prepare to die"
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Postby Stoneburg » Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:56 pm

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Postby stickdude » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:07 pm

"My name is Inigo Montoya. You cracked my Aces... prepare to die"
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Postby pnutbutr » Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:01 am

^ No, I didn't limp with that hand.

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