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Postby Kuso » Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:04 am

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Postby Marm » Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:33 pm

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Postby Kuso » Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:35 pm

wwcrd?

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Postby flafishy » Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:08 am

Kuso, isn't this at least dangerously close to being collusive -- or actually out-and-out collusive? Seems to me that it's OK to set these kinds of rules for everyone at the table who wants to sit in on your game. But if you and one or two others have joined a table with your own set of rules set up that the rest of the table isn't aware of, I would think that would be ban-worthy.
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Postby MecosKing » Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:02 pm

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Postby Kuso » Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:31 pm

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Postby Danhdan » Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:17 pm

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Postby flafishy » Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:39 am

Intentionally winning or losing has nothing to do with it. Collusion is an agreement between two or more players to play a hand in a certain way.

col·lu·sion (k-lzhn)
n.
A secret agreement between two or more parties for a fraudulent, illegal, or deceitful purpose.

From Poker Stars T&C (bf mine):

No matter how sophisticated the collusion is, it must involve a play of a hand that would not be played that way without collusion. Our detection methods will catch unusual play patterns and warn the security personnel, who will then make a thorough manual investigation. We will also investigate all players' reports about suspected collusion.
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Postby Kuso » Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:50 am

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Postby flafishy » Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:11 am

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Postby Kuso » Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:35 pm

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Postby MVPSPORTS » Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:08 pm

I was at the Hard Rock last night, and I would like to call out collusion on EVERY goddamn person there playing 2/2 limit... I didn't see a person fold all night...
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Postby MecosKing » Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:44 pm

Wow- its a good thing there are legal minds on BTP so that donktasticized pokerstatutes can be accurately interpreted.

Now mind you my heart is a lump of coal, and to the extent it pumps, it pumps alcohol, which it pumps through arteries that are undoubtedly alot more brittle than they should be given my age, into a liquor sodden mind.

This all being so however, and the fact that kuso is a miseginator and a latent homosexual to boot also of course being so, I think hes right, and I challenge anyone to show me how the intent to 'play 100% of hands and try to book a winner' exactly constitutes an 'illegal or fraudulent purpose'.

The seemingly unqualified secret agreement thing could possibly bring it all under the purview of 'collusion' under the terms you outlined, but the truth is that i have never played a TW challenge (and trust me, ive played a few) where our 'secret agreemenet' didnt get revealed to the entire table within about 5 hands (cuz trust me shit talkin abounds in these spots) I have never seen a single person ever have a problem with it at any of the tables.

And i also am too lazy to check, but id go out on a limb here and say that the possibility of collusion is a pretty insubstantial part of the rationale behind the legislatures attempted ban of internet poker.
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