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$5FR -Set of J's vs turn raise

Postby SNGfan » Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:34 am

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) from (Format: Bet The Pot)

saw flop|saw showdown

UTG+1 ($5.09)
MP1 ($1.99)
MP2 ($1.98)
MP3 ($5.32)
CO ($3)
Button ($3.59)
Hero ($6.27)
BB ($5)
UTG ($0.57)

Preflop: Hero is SB with [Jh], [Js].
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.02, 1 fold, MP3 calls $0.02, 2 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.08) [5d], [8s], [Jd] (4 players)
Hero bets $0.1, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP3 calls $0.10.

Villian had the dice icon in PT (gambler). He will bet and raise if he thinks he has the best hand. His AF was at 3.57 after 85 hands.

Turn: ($0.28) [Tc] (2 players)
Hero bets $0.3, MP3 raises to $0.6, Hero calls $0.30.

Q9 had me worried. I went into call down mode.

River: ($1.48) [6c] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $0.6, Hero calls $0.60.

Final Pot: $2.68
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Postby Danhdan » Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:17 pm

What kent said. Reraise the turn. It means you have him beat if he thinks he has the best hand with T8. His aggression factor might lead to a push as well which is what we want.
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Postby Pozzo » Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:11 pm

First, next time raise preflop. As much as it sucks to raise, get 2 callers, and then have to act first on an A K 4 flop, you just have to do it.

You didn't mention his VPIP, but if he likes to see a lot of flops then Q9 and 79 are both possible hands. I don't think you can discredit those hands based on his flop call. If he had 97 he was double-gutted, and if he had Q9...well, in my opinion, the kind of people who play Q9 are the kind who will call with a gushot and an overcard.

BUT, you can't be afraid of those hands. As the other saids, you should re-raise the turn and try to get all of your chips in. Every now and then he'll have the straight, but I think more often than not he'll have two pair, a lower set, or a slowplayed AA/KK. And going into the river you still have 10 outs.
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Postby bobby » Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:23 pm

Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.02, 1 fold, MP3 calls $0.02, 2 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Haven't we been through this before? Raise the damn thing!! This hand is good enough to raise (5XBB), but nowhere near strong enough to slowplay...

Flop: ($0.08) , , (4 players)
Hero bets $0.1, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP3 calls $0.10.
Villian had the dice icon in PT (gambler). He will bet and raise if he thinks he has the best hand. His AF was at 3.57 after 85 hands.
Turn: ($0.28) (2 players)
Hero bets $0.3, MP3 raises to $0.6, Hero calls $0.30.
Q9 had me worried. I went into call down mode.

That's the worst reason in the world to NOT raise...If you want to call here and try to get more money on the river thats OK( which is probably a mistake at these levels-I either push, or bet enough where he has to think about getting it all in)...Q9 is monster under the bed...Quit worrying and play poker!

River: ($1.48) (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $0.6, Hero calls $0.60.

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Postby Stoneburg » Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:31 pm

Make it $2 on the turn and push the river.
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Postby k3nt » Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:01 pm

Good point Pozzo. I never see double gutshots. Gotta work on that.
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Postby DaHitDogg » Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:06 pm

Raise pre-flop so you can bet more on the flop. Reraise on the turn. There's no need to worry about Q9, you'd still have plenty of outs as it is.
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Postby Danhdan » Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:32 am

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