Just curious if this was a bad fold and if I played it badly.


***** Hand History for Game 4960600246 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, August 16, 10:31:51 ET 2006
Table Lethbridge (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Mr_Nice83 ( $41.30 )
Seat 6: davjos ( $41.20 )
Seat 8: Hero ( $66.71 )
Seat 7: Faceman14 ( $22.12 )
Seat 10: D33D1 ( $9 )
Seat 5: t_vaalivuori ( $28.07 )
Seat 3: Lord_of_Sins ( $50.65 )
Seat 2: am2ASHI ( $47.65 )
Seat 9: bufxxx ( $44.75 )
Seat 4: RyanChand ( $50 )
am2ASHI posts small blind [$0.25].
Lord_of_Sins is sitting out.
RyanChand posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Qh Th ]
t_vaalivuori raises [$1].
davjos folds.
Faceman14 calls [$1].
Hero calls [$1].
bufxxx folds.
D33D1 folds.
Mr_Nice83 folds.
am2ASHI folds.
RyanChand calls [$0.50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, 6h, 3h ]
RyanChand checks.
t_vaalivuori checks.
Faceman14 checks.
Hero checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jh ]
RyanChand checks.
t_vaalivuori bets [$4].
Faceman14 folds.
Hero calls [$4].
RyanChand folds.
** Dealing River ** [ 7h ]
t_vaalivuori bets [$10].
Hero folds.
t_vaalivuori does not show cards.
t_vaalivuori wins $21.65

Raise the turn....why?

#1) For value
#2) Because you may well have folded the best hand and wouldnt have to 2nd guess yourself on the river if you raise the turn.

I hear ya Zmej. Haven't really thought of it that way. I guess I've been playing too much weak tight poker. Trying to keep my variance low.

Agreed, you gotta raise the turn. It is 100% not true that only bigger flushes will call. Any flush will call or even reraise you.

"He protected my hand for me" is just not true. Ever. Once he has bet, you have to decide whether to call or raise. If you flat call, then you gave him a free chance to catch -- free relative to what he has already put in the pot, that is. That's a mistake. Just because he has paid some doesn't mean you shouldn't insist that he put in more.

You don't need a lot of fold equity to bet the flop. Bet the flop, bet the turn. As played I would call on the river. Opponent has no reason suspect you have the 2nd nut since you haven't shown any aggression.

Since he flat called the turn I think he can safely fold the river. His opponent should be worried that he called with the unless he has it himself, which he probably does.

The turn really needs to be raised and it is completely untrue that you won't be called unless you're beaten. If he has the he'll call, if he has a smaller flush he will call or raise, if he was slowplaying a set or two-pair on the flop he'll call.

I don't think you have to bet the flop. Taking a free card to draw to the flush is totally OK, you don't need to bet your draws every time, especially not in multiway pots.