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Postby gsdavid » Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:34 am

This is on titan, i had a bit long session about 900 hands(bit less than 2 hrs of play) and i managed to end up down a buy in
after long review(hand history sucks there, so u need to do it all manually) ive found several trouble hands that could had been played better
I'm sorry that its in hand written form, but for time being(about 2 weeks more and PO will support XML files(hand history database of iPoker)

In this session i had trouble with shortstacks(they were beating me silly)

Hand 1:
20BB shortstack raises to 4BB in SB, i call in BB with 99(whole table folded)
flop is rainbow and
he pushes for remaining 15-20BB...he has been passive for most time and since im kinda doing a lot of tables i had limited read but he was somewhat passive at the time..in vacuum is this ok call or spewing? He had AA

Hand 2:
im in BB with KK, there are 2 limpers so i raise to 6BB and get 1 caller
flop is KJ9 with a flush draw..so pretty drawy board..
at this point pot is about 13BB so i bet 10BB into the pot and he cals
turn is a rag and i bet again(with my set) about 20BB this time in 33BB pot leaving his stack with another 8BB(i thought he might be on a draw and i figured that if i pushed he might fold)...river completed the flush and i pushed for remaining of his 8BB
should i had pushed the turn no matter what on this drawy board?(he could possible already have me beat with QT or something)..he hit his flush..

Hand 3: UTG raises for 4 BB and i just call with QQ in utg+1(he was passiveuntil that point and i only saw a few hands of his since he was new to the table..so i assumed that he actually has a good hand(AA, KK or AJ+) so i wanted to see the flop and let him lead into me..anyhow flop is 5s 9s 7d and pot is at this point 9BB
he checks and i bet 6BB(i actually feared CR and didnt not want to put too much into pot but give him bad odds for drawing overcards and possible draw)
Turn is Kd, opening a diamond draw and he checks so ive decided to check also...since he did raise with something i figured he was slowpaying his K with AK since ppl do check it sometimes when hit(or he was slowplaying a made had with smaller PP) since only hand that im normaly beating right now is a smaller PP or AJs that are usually raised in that position..so he couldhave mostly 3 or 2 outs that could be drawing and i wasnt too happy about my hand..so i checked and decided to fold if riverwas a spade completing the first draw...however, river was a Qd giving me a 2nd nut set but there was also a runner runner flush..surprisingly, all of sudden he bets 20BB into me..that is full pot..i think for a while and decide to push for his remainig 20bb...i figured that he could have a busted draw and trying to push me off since i feared K or it could be a poorly slowplayed smaller set or KQ AK or AQ...althought it is unusual that they would bet so much into pot..so basically..should i have just called there or even folded?
that is about it..as it turns out session was quite dry, i missed all my FD draws and several straight draws in raised pots so i had nothing to misplay there(except maybe chasing a bit bad odds...and yes he did have the runner runner flush with A5s that he raised UTG
tnx for help
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:50 am

hand 1: a call there is good.

hand 2: i like the way you played this. 20 BB into a 33 BB pot is about right, betting 28 may be a bit much though i doubt it's a huge mistake either way.

hand 3: i would re-raise preflop, but i like how you played the hand post-flop.
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Postby Stoneburg » Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:13 am

#1
No problem with calling that flop bet. Your preflop call can't be for a set (no odds) so you have to play it like your overpair is good post flop.

#2
This shows the importance of planning ahead. On the flop you need to look at his stack and see how you need to bet to get it in the middle. He is so short that you should try to put him in on the turn. If you just bet pot on the flop you can put him in on the turn without it being an overbet.

#3
Since he only has 20bb left I think you should push here. If you have the best hand at least 50% of the time it is +EV and only KK or a backdoor flush beats you. I would expect KK to bet or check/raise the flop. He most likely has AK and is betting it for value thinking you have a lower pair since you checked the turn. Well played.

I don't think you made any serious mistakes in any of the hands, unless you messed up the other 897 hands it's probably just variance. However, getting 900 hands in 2 hours means you play what, 9 tables? Are you sure you're not overdoing it, costing you more value than you earn?
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