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Good flop bad turn ($100 NL FR)

Postby DoctorHandles » Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:22 am

Ok so NL is going pretty well so far, might move up to $200 in the next couple weeks. Wondering how you guys play this hand....

Poker Room skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
10 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $156.10
UTG+1: $97.20
UTG+2: $116.65
MP1: $100.00
MP2: $69.60
MP3: $149.20
CO: $42.65
Button: $101.00
hero: $91.40
BB: $149.85

Pre-flop: (10 players) hero is SB with [5c] [Ad]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 3 folds, CO calls, Button folds, hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: [2h] [3h] [4s] ($5, 5 players)
hero bets $4.5, BB raises to $12, 3 folds, hero raises to $34.5, BB calls.

Turn: [2c] ($74, 2 players)
hero?

Feel free to comment on preflop/flop play as well, thanks.


And one more hand....
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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
10 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $109.50
UTG+1: $81.25
UTG+2: $92.30
hero: $198.80
MP2: $44.45
MP3: $83.60
CO: $187.90
Button: $100.50
SB: $204.15
BB: $94.00

Pre-flop: (10 players) hero is MP1 with [Js] [Jh]
3 folds, hero raises to $4, MP2 calls, 3 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: [5h] [Qs] [4h] ($13, 3 players)
SB checks, hero?

My first thoughts are this looks like an easy CB. But do I really want to fire out a $9-$10 shot on a board where I'll have no idea if a call means a slowplayed set, a queen, or a draw? Since I raised in middle position 4x BB and got two callers, two of the most likely hands they can have are AQ/KQ. If I check here and I am leading, chances are I can still take it away on a non-threatening turn. If I check and the guy behind me bets, I can comfortably fold if the SB calls or raises. If MP2 bets a small amount and I don't think he's packing I can check-raise him and win a bigger pot, and lastly, if it checks around and SB leads the turn he most surely has a queen. I check behind with the intention of taking it down if the jacks are still good, and maybe even getting a call if I bet the turn and a villian has 77-TT. My post-flop aggression factor is 6.5, so obviously a lot of things have to come into perfect allignment for me to give it a check, but this is one I'm pretty happy about. Thoughts?
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Postby Jarren » Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:53 am

hand #1: Mallin. If he turned his his full house then so be it, but there is $74 in the pot and I have over half my stack in when I flopped the nuts I certainly don't fold now. I shove and loose a stack if I have too

Hand #2: I half bet the pot - 3/4 pot and fold to a raise. Really that isn't a terrible flop for you. The Q may help a random donkey with AQ or KQ but I think you are more worried about a draw than a Q here.

If I get called I decide if he was drawing or not but most likely I am checking the turn
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Postby Danhdan » Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:34 pm

Hand #1: You have $55 left and the pot is $74. Seems like a no choice all in here. If he has a set or a higher straight, then you are done for, flush draw might still call as well, although at least you are pricing him out. Don't see alot of wiggle room here after your reraise on the flop; you've basically said you are allin on the turn after that.

I don't complete with this hand...doesn't really have alot of value other than trip 5's and flopping a non nut straight.

Hand #2:CB bet...this isn't a great flop for you but It might not be good for anyone else. You can check a turn and call a decent river bet...or you can bet on the turn again if you feel he is on the flush draw. I fire $11-13.

A call on my CB bet here means SLOW DOWN. I probaby check the turn no matter who calls. If both call, I am done with the hand. This would be alot easier with some kind of read.
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