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Flopped the nuts...push or call? (400NL 6-max)

Postby Triple B » Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:23 pm

Stack sizes:
UTG: $351.30
Hero: $489.40
CO: $120.45
Button: $234.40
SB: $324
BB: $846.30

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with [Ad] [Kd]
UTG folds, Hero raises to $14, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: [9d] [6d] [7d] ($56, 4 players)
SB bets $72, BB raises to $210

Hero?

Talk about action...lol. Overbet and raise into the PFR. Obviously BB has a set or a lower flush. The overbet by SB probably means he's got a vulnerable hand, maybe 6-7 or 9-7, maybe a set, maybe a bluff. No read here.

So do you push now or call now and get it in on the turn?
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Postby iceman5 » Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:30 pm

I would just call, but you dont have the nuts.
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Postby Stelvask » Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:59 pm

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Postby shobute » Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:01 pm

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Postby Stoneburg » Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:30 pm

Push because...

7 diamonds might kill your action on the turn, two will make anyone with the [8d] the nuts
9 cards pair the board
An overbet and a raise means you're likely to get called
...and if not you win 84.5BB with zero risk!! That's almost a fulll stack.

It doesn't really matter though. You've got almost half your stack in if you call, unless SB folds he will have 2/3 of his in. Everyone will be going to the felt.
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Postby iceman5 » Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:45 pm

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Postby The Golden 1 » Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:48 pm

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Postby Triple B » Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:25 pm

Haha...you are right, I don't have the nuts. Wasn't thinking too clearly there.

I'll play this like I have the nuts though...I'm not worrying about a flopped stright flush.

I did consider calling just to try to bring along the SB, but I didn't want to puke on the turn if the board pairs or another diamond kills my action (I'd probably only get action from a straight flush at that point).

My question is...if you are SB would it make any difference if I push or not? (ie a thinking SB doesn't care whether I push or call, as he's either folding or he wants to be all-in) I mean to call would pot commit him anyway. Ultimately that is why I pushed because it would be such a show of strength to flat call that I didn't think it mattered. I put BB on 99 and figured he'd call. So in my 15 seconds of thought I figured there was no upside to flat calling, only bad things could happen. After thinking about it more, I can't see why calling here is good. Also, if the board pairs on the turn I sure as hell don't want to be calling off $250+ to BB's push of his full house when I'm drawing dead.

I push, SB thinks forever and folds. BB insta-calls with his top set. The board doesn't pair and I scoop over $1k.
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:25 am

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby iceman5 » Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:03 pm

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Postby pnutbutr » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:43 pm

I like just calling here and try to take both players along with you. It seems BB is likely to give you his whole stack and I'm 99.99999% sure neither has the str8 flush. Then I'd get all-in on a non-paired turn.
^ No, I didn't limp with that hand.

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Postby Spank_her_Pair » Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:59 am

[5c] [7c]
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