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Postby PokerWolf » Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:21 pm

I am really trying to tighten up my play a bit. If I start running at anything over 20% I take a hard look at my hand selection to make sure I am not falling into old habits. One side effect that surprises me is that I am no longer as sure what to raise with.

I feel like I should have raised preflop with this. Instead, I called and when I was bet into on the flop, I raised to find out where I was. When I was reraised, I had to fold, but I am not sure that I did not lay down the best hand. I feel that if I had raised preflop, I would have had control of the hand, and a much clearer idea of where I was.

Please let me know what you think.

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.01./$0.02.
8 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $1.42
UTG+1: $1.93
Hero: $1.60
MP2: $1.54
CO: $1.35
Button: $0.91
SB: $0.63
BB: $3.21

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP1 with [Qd] [Ks]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, MP2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: [Qs] [9d] [Jd] ($0.12, 6 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.12, UTG calls, Hero raises to $0.24, CO folds, Button raises all-in $0.89, 3 folds, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.65 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: $0.84

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Postby SNGfan » Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:08 pm

I currently play in the same game as posted and I usually dump KQo from MP1.

Looks like your against a flopped straight. I probably move on to the next hand.

Im sure the other posters will be of more help than I have been.
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Postby shamdonk » Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:17 pm

Fold preflop but as played I'm probably going broke here.
TP + OE + 2NBDFD = Ship it.
Be glad your opponents refuse to fold; if they didn't, you just might go broke.


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Postby PokerWolf » Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:18 pm

So, SNG do you think these players on UB are as terrible as we hear from the other sites?

Sometimes I read people talking about common characteristics of micro stakes players and I don't see it.

I grant you there are a lot of bad players, but many of them are very good.
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Postby DoctorHandles » Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:39 pm

Like most played I've gone to $0.01/$0.02 to screw around, and from the 30 hands or so I've played or seen I would never lay down top pair much less an overpair simply because the games are so crazy.

As for learning good poker, you should lay this hand down preflop but I'm not doubting you can still make money playing it at this low of stakes.
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Postby PokerWolf » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:05 pm

Okay, so you guys have convinced me that I am overvaluing some hands in MP. Thank you, your answers probably plug 3 leaks in my game.

What about AQo->ATo? are these nogood in MP as well?

I don't really have enough hands in my poker tracker to tell, for sure. The ones I do have tell me that AQ is fine, AJ is horrible, and surprisingly, AT is fine. I think that is because I tend to fall in love with AJ, and overplay it... I will work on that.

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Postby DoctorHandles » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:41 am

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Postby ua1176 » Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:44 am

there are a lot of reasons to raise in NL holdem. "finding out where you are" isnt one of them.

the reason that raising helps you "find out where you are" is because it helps "your opponent play perfectly."

by "finding out where you are" you more or less just drastically reduce your EV.

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Postby DoctorHandles » Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:20 am

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Postby Stoneburg » Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:28 am

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Postby adamh » Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:10 am

that guy must be from cartoon land.....thats pretty humorous
mets better step it up
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