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Postby shobute » Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:07 pm

I'm new to the table. About third orbit in.
$2000 effective stacks.

Activeish looking MP opens for $80, I make it $250 on the button with AA.
Unknown BB cold calls, MP folds.

Flop KQ5 rainbow, pot $600.
He leads for $450.
I fold.
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Postby NorthView » Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:44 am

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When I play a patient and relaxed game I win - that simple.

Mon May 12, 2008 10:55 pm
Seriously, fuck poker.
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[21:03] NorthViewBTP: you should support your bro
[21:03] Mekosking: therefore hes a fat worthless tsr obv
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Postby Kuso » Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:00 am

wwcrd?

"that basically sums up poker for me - 12" needle in the testicle." <nutkick> mvp
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Postby DoctorHandles » Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:24 am

The better player should win the race. Always.
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Postby Kuso » Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:32 am

wwcrd?

"that basically sums up poker for me - 12" needle in the testicle." <nutkick> mvp
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Postby The Golden 1 » Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:34 am

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Postby DoctorHandles » Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:42 am

The better player should win the race. Always.
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Postby Kuso » Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:03 am

wwcrd?

"that basically sums up poker for me - 12" needle in the testicle." <nutkick> mvp
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Postby Kuso » Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:07 am

wwcrd?

"that basically sums up poker for me - 12" needle in the testicle." <nutkick> mvp
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Postby DoctorHandles » Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:14 am

The better player should win the race. Always.
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Postby WayToGo » Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:52 am

250$ on 2000$ stacks.
250:2000 ==> 7:1

Odds of flopping a set. 8.5:1

I think lacking a very good read, i don't ever fold this AA post flop just cuz it's +EV.

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equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 83.2038 % 82.48% 00.73% { AdAs }
Hand 2: 16.7962 % 16.07% 00.73% { 22+, AQs+, KQs, AQo+, KQo }

The chances of outflopping you with non pairs very tiny.
Taking shots, one at a time.
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Postby k3nt » Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:12 am

The odds of flopping a set are 1 time in 8.5, not 8.5:1 (which is 1 time in 9.5).

IOW, you flop a set 11.75 percent of the time. If more than 11.75 percent of your stack is in preflop, you made a -EV call preflop assuming you check/fold all misses. 11.75 percent of 2000 = $235. $250 is just barely more. But in this case, the BB already had 20 bucks in, plus there was 80 more in from the original raiser. So the BB did not make a -EV preflop call.

I'm assuming that because you're playing $2000 NL, the default for "unknown" player is "pretty good"?

I don't know WTF to do in this situation. I think a cold call might scare the **** out of him if he holds anything but the current nuts, because you could so easily have KK. If he bets the turn strong again so that it looks like all the money is going in, that could be the time to bail. Maybe that's spewing...? But no, I don't think so. Calling $450 into a $1050 pot, you only have to be ahead 1 time in 3.33 here. And those times you are ahead, he's going to slow down on the turn unless he's an uberbluffer. Call the flop and evaluate the turn.
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Postby Xaston » Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:16 am

Boy, you got me confused with a man who repeats himself.
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Postby black_knight6 » Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:43 am

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