by Aisthesis » Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:13 pm
I agree with playing it slower but still like the c-r.
For whatever it's worth, (regrettably still not based on having actually seen you play lately and having even less of a concept as to what your play looks like 6max) I know I'd call you there with AA, and this would be my thinking: I figure, first, that you ARE capable of raising and calling a re-raise with a SC (which I doubt most people online can pick up on unless they've played a lot of hands with you). Second, I think you're capable of playing at least KK, AKs in clubs, any made straight, and possibly some straight draws with pairs (certainly at least 54s in clubs) this way. I think AA is far enough ahead of this range that I'd have to call, despite drawing dead to the made straight. I'm not completely sure I'd call with anything else at all, although I'd have to see what you look like in 6max before saying that definitely. I'd at least have to think pretty hard about it before laying down KK there.
The thing about the CRAI imo is that you really have to have an opponent who's not afraid to play for stack, and most people that I run into are. Hence, lots of LAGs willing to overbet are capable to taking down lots of pots because people are just too scared of these bets. The "fear factor" here is probably rather less extreme in a 6max 5/10, but I'm just guessing on that one. I think my judgment of the opponent in that regard would be the decisive factor in determining where between $400 and $600 I set my c-r here. I think he's pretty much hooked regardless of where you set it, though. $600 can also look a little more drawy/bluffy if you think you can get your opponent thinking in that direction.
I also think JJ is going to be a little difficult to get hooked anyway, unless he's like the guy you were talking about recently who'd take TT as overpair all the way.
Anyhow, if you bet out, you might have a little better chances against JJ, as it's going to look like a bet that takes down the pot with some overpair vs. a possible unimproved AK. Do you think most of the time JJ will flat call rather than raise in a 6max game?
I dunno, if you knew for a fact he had JJ, maybe something like a check-call would be best. Then you have to hope that the flush doesn't hit the turn since you're going to be looking like a flush draw (I agree with you on the AKs worry--it's rare enough that I'm going to get stacked if that flush hits, although I will worry if we get 4 clubs out there before all the money is in) on some kind of big suited A.
If he's on the WT side, he's probably going to let JJ go anyway, but I still think a smaller c-r ($400-$600) has a lot of potential. To my mind, the c-r just looks a lot more like you have the appropriate AKs draw. But JJ may not want to play against that one anyway unless you check-call. If he puts you on AKs, then in his mind, you're going to have 15 outs against him when he has JJ (or QQ for that matter, although QQ at least would reduce your outs if he thinks you might have AQs).
I dunno, I almost think the only real alternative to some kind of c-r is to check-call. And I don't like that mainly because if a club hits the turn, it's going to kill your action unless he has a big club.