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Postby iceman5 » Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:10 pm

#1) Is this river a value bet?

$5/$10 NL 6 max. I open from the cutoff to $35 with [Ac][7c]. The BB calls. My only read is that the BB called my $35 raise from the BB earlier with KT and called my flop and turn bets with a Txx flop (which had flush draw). I check behind on the river which was a J and I won with my AT.

Effective stacks $2250. Pot $75. Flop [8c][6c][3s]. He check / calls my $50 flop bet.

Pot $175. Turn [As]. He checks. I thought about checkign behind because I didnt want to get check raised off this pretty good hand but decided to value bet $100 which he called.

Pot $375. River [7h]. If he had 54 or something like [Tc][9c], he just hit, but Ive rarley been check raised on the river at $5/$10. They usually lead the river when they hit so I cant check behind. Do you value bet this and if so , how much?

#2) Is this a value call?

UTG raises to $30. He starts with $448. No read. I reraise to $105 in the BB with KK which he calls.

Pot $220. I get the obligatory [Ad][5h][4h] flop. I bet $130 and he calls.
Pot $480. Turn [8c]. He has $210 left. I thought about pushing but decide to check and of courrse he pushes. Im getting 3.2-1. Does he push JJ or whatever often enough to make this a value call?
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Postby shamdonk » Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:19 pm

Be glad your opponents refuse to fold; if they didn't, you just might go broke.


(9:00:09 PM) GodlikeRoy: i think you could prolly post total shit for the next 2 years aaaaand like 192 days and you'll still be considered 'posting good' cause of your threads that'll never be seen thread
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Postby Xaston » Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:21 pm

Boy, you got me confused with a man who repeats himself.
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Postby hard2tel » Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:26 pm

"But meh, what I lack for in talent and intelligence I make up for in lack of ambition." -- Oatmealforxmas

- make more than xaston and roy
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Postby Twelver » Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:21 pm

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Postby iceman5 » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:02 pm

#1) I bet $200 and he called and mucked

#2) I cringed but called. He had [Th][7h] and he missed the flush. Very questionable I think, but luckily I was right.
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Postby T-Rod » Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:14 am

The problem is when you make your CB and they float you (which they love to do anyway), or you get raised by an overagressive JJ trying to make a steal.
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