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$2/$4 PLO8, bad turn

Postby davebreal » Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:45 pm

standard fold here?

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Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
8 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $96.60
davebreal: $572.55
MP1: $359.75
MP2: $154
CO: $106.25
Button: $319.75
SB: $285
BB: $708.10

Pre-flop: (8 players) davebreal is UTG+1 with [9s] [6d] [As] [2d]
UTG calls, davebreal calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: [Ts] [6s] [7h] ($20, 5 players)
SB checks, BB bets $19, UTG folds, davebreal raises to $76, CO calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: [Jd] ($248, 3 players)
BB checks, davebreal checks, CO is all-in $26.25, BB raises to $323.75, davebreal folds.
Uncalled bets: $297.5 returned to BB.

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Postby JDLush » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:36 am

Considering the best you can hope for is that he has the str8 and zero spades, and even then you are a 2:1 dog it's a reasonable fold.

Some will argue to raise this preflop to try and push out a hand like 89xx from the bb, but in EP this is not an ideal raising hand, IMO.
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Postby GooperMC » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:36 am

This one is real close, and I can't really put the BB on a hand. Do you have any reads on him? The only hands that I can think of that the J helps is 89 or a high wrap but unless he is a total donk both hands will fold the flop. If you were OOP I would fold without hesitation. IP I would rely on my read of the BB so I knew what my implied odds are and how likely BB is to have another A2.
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Re: $2/$4 PLO8, bad turn

Postby TomG » Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:52 am

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Re: $2/$4 PLO8, bad turn

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Postby pnutbutr » Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:15 pm

Looks way too high variance for my liking. Playing $300 hands of blackjack is pretty high variance too and I'm not terribly interested in that, so this looks like a totally reasonable fold.
^ No, I didn't limp with that hand.

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Re: $2/$4 PLO8, bad turn

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Re: $2/$4 PLO8, bad turn

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Postby Stoneburg » Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:21 pm

TomG has a point. Just because there will be better +EV situations down the road doesn't mean you should give up on smaller +EV situations now. In fact, if we allow for metagame, by accepting the marginal +EV situations here you will get more of the good situations later since you're creating more of an action image.

Still, I like low variance. I won't take a 51% edge for any real sum. I don't like gambling and would rather have 10 small wins make up $100 than two big wins and a big loss.
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