.25/.50 NL Pacific 9-handed
No reads

SB is sitting with a half stack ($25)
UTG and I both have 1 full stack ($50)


Hero is on the button with KK

UTG limps(.50)
folds......
MP1 limps(.50)
MP3 limps(.50)
Hero raises to $3.50
SB calls $3.25
UTG calls $3
MP1 calls $3
MP3 calls $3

wow..... not what I wanted, but oh well

App $15 pot going to the
flop - (T, T, 8) - rainbow

SB bets out $14
UTG calls $14
MP1 folds
MP3 folds
Hero ??????


My thinking here goes a little something like this - The SB bet doesn't scare me much, the players here are very weak and strange, I think he could easily have just an 8 or some PP, I'll raise. Then the UTG flat-calls !!!!!! scary !!!!!! There are no flush draws out and I can't imagine a j/9 or 9/7 limping from UTG, calling a raise and now flat calling so much on an oesd. The flat call here really scares me. I'm at Pacific, so I only get 20 seconds to act with no time bank. I'm sitting with $47 and its $14 to me, what do you do here???

i would have to say fold, i would say that one of them probably has the 10.

Flat call on the flop in this hand = 'I have trips or better, I'll act weak and call, PFR will hopefully reraise and then I will spring to life, he won't suspect a thing, good God, I'm smart'

Usually.

Just fold and be thankful the flop action saved you from putting more money in.

I'd raise more preflop. At a normal site 7x the BB might be enough, but at Pacific I think you need to raise more to balance out the donk factor. With loose players, err on the side of raising too much with KK and AA and it'll make your postflop decisions easier.

Raising 4x +1 for each limper seems to do alright, but in this case the sb and utg called and started the wave.

Well, I thought about it till the timer got down to 1 and reluctantly folded. I was right about the SB, he just had the 8 with 8/6o. Why he felt compelled to call such a raise in such a position with such a hand I'll never know, but thank god for him and his followers. The UTG player who flat-called the pot-sized bet showed JJ and I cursed the monitor. First I got KK vs AA twice all-in preflop this day, then get pushed out with the best hand in this large pot(btw, they both got all in unimproved on the turn), so I went 0-3 and lost a good bit with Kings. I can see the reasoning for calling by the jacks I guess if he sensed what I did from the SB's bet. But in theory, I don't mind that I folded since I think more often than not one of them will flip over a ten.