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Am I behind with Pocket Kings? [$50] [6 max]

Postby Poker Hans » Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:21 pm

Playing last night, Pokerstars $50 cash game and this happens. Should I fold or call?

Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/09/25 - 20:30:54 (ET)
Table 'Lucina V' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Villian ($45.30 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero ($62.85 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish ($14.85 in chips)
Seat 4: SB ($51.40 in chips)
Seat 5: BB ($16.15 in chips)
Seat 6: UTG ($38.20 in chips)
gking007: posts small blind $0.25
Fulle1234: posts big blind $0.50

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ks Kd]
UTG: folds
UTG leaves the table
Villian: raises $1.50 to $2
Hero: raises $6 to $8
Fish: calls $8
SB: folds
BB: folds
Villain: raises $37.30 to $45.30 and is all-in


Villian has been fairly solid, is a winning player (he joined the table with about $30). He hasn't had to show many winning hands so I'm not quite sure what his raising range is. I note that he hasn't lost many of the hands that he has got involved with post flop, so he's really only betting when he has a hand. He's probably the best player at the table................apart from me of course :D .

Fish is loose, he was doing well...up about $25 - $30, but is on tilt after loosing two fairly big pots. Regardless of what I do, I feel he's definately calling.
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Postby DoctorHandles » Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:00 pm

The better player should win the race. Always.
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Postby DaHitDogg » Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:16 pm

Insta-call, the short buy-in and the call from the fish both increase the chances that he is pushing w/ something other than Aces.
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Postby Danhdan » Wed Sep 27, 2006 4:40 am

"Million dollar play, ten cent finish."

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Postby GodlikeRoy » Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:25 am

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby GodlikeRoy » Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:43 am

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby Danhdan » Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:23 pm

"Million dollar play, ten cent finish."

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Postby Poker Hans » Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:56 am

Wow! I'm amazed that nearly everybody advises instantly calling. I think I call in certain situations, I definately call against 2 or 3 of the other players on this table, but not against this player. Maybe I haven't provided the correct info on him, but he was fairly tight, as much of a rock as you can get at this level.

Also surely poker is not just about playing the stats. I agree I am probably ahead here most of the time, but I will also be behind occasionally. I acept that this level is not the WSOP, but surely it must contain the occasional good player. A rare player who has a least a fair grasp of the game? I know a lot of you guys are playing at a different level, but I just don't see what he is going to come over the top of my re-raise with, other than [AA] or possibly [KK].


Anyway I eventually folded and as I expected the fish called. The hand played out as follows;

FLOP - [3h] [Jd] [2h]

TURN - [Kh] - (typical I think to myself).

RIVER - [4h]


*** SHOW DOWN ***

Villian: shows [Ad] [Ah] (a flush, Ace high)
Fish: mucks hand


I'm not promoting folding [KK] pre flop. Generally my rule of thumb pre flop is to call an all in with [AA] or [KK]. This time round I just felt that this player wasn't going to come over the top of my raise without a huge hand and decided to walk away from it. It took me a long time to do it though and thanks to the 4h on the river I saved myself $37.50.

I would have loved to see what the fish had, but he didn't show.
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