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Postby Jav » Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:21 am

Only 30 hands with the villain, and he hasn't done anything that has caught my attention.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
8 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $371.20
Hero: $897.50
MP1: $407.20
MP2: $201.45
CO: $877.85
Button: $159.90
SB: $560
BB: $207.90

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is UTG+1 with [Th] [Td]
UTG folds, Hero raises to $12, 5 folds, BB calls.

Flop: [8s] [6s] [3h] ($26, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $20, BB calls.

Turn: [3d] ($66, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $53, BB calls.

River: [4c] ($172, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero ???


Do I make a value bet here? And if so how much?
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Postby Danhdan » Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:50 am

If you bet anything here and he CRAI, then you have to call. Although he is a shortstack, so I don't give him as much credit for a hand that beats you, there are still quite a few hands that are ahead. Without a read, I check. But pushing and checking here are really close for me.

Is it just me or have I seen alot of people slowplay there AA in this spot just like this way too often. Pretty sick, but what the hell is he calling that turn bet with? I like the check as well for the info you get here.
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Postby shobute » Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:54 am

If he really is playing halfstacked then this is an easy value bet on the river because halfstacks are generally very bad.
If he's playing fullstacked and just lost half of his stack then this is an easy value bet on the river because he could be tilting.
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Postby shamdonk » Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:03 pm

Be glad your opponents refuse to fold; if they didn't, you just might go broke.


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Postby Triple B » Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:39 pm

I put him in here for sure...I don't think its really that close to be honest.
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Postby Stelvask » Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:03 pm

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Postby Jav » Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:47 am

He bought in half-stacked or so.

I was having a hard time thinking of a reasonable made hand that he would have been calling with. I considered checking and hoping he might bluff a busted draw, but for some reason I really felt he was calling with a pair. Maybe it was the timing of his calls, they weren't the immediate or nearly immediate calls you see with most obvious draws.

I thought that A8, 77, or 99 were possibilities. Would he call off the rest of his stack with one of those hands?

I bet another $50 on the river and he called. I would have called a push, but I wouldn't have been as happy with my hand.

He had K6. Gotta love the idiot factor. But if he would call that bet, maybe he would have called his whole stack.
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