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Postby T-Rod » Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:23 pm

Here's something I see alot at 1/2 6max.

I raise in LP with J[h] J[c]. An EP limper now calls. He's fully stacked and plays about 33/9/2

Flop ($17). Q[h] 6[d] 2[s]. Limper leads 14.

What does limper have most of the time here?
What's my play?
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Postby WayToGo » Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:39 pm

Taking shots, one at a time.
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Postby ua1176 » Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:55 pm

raise is only good if he's gonna fold Q-x. otherwise we're just pissing away $$$.

i think a 33/9 is actually going to have Q-x here sometimes. i think his range is: PP<QQ, Q-x, set.
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:06 pm

Just fold. All you beat is a bluff, and by raising, you turn your hand into a bluff. Against some opponents i'll call here but generally most will bet again on the turn and if that's the case you're just giving money away.
Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby T-Rod » Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:55 am

Despite what Doyle writes, very, very few people lead with a set. Those who do, don't leads 3/4 pot.

Also, guys who have limp-called a raise usually have a pocket pair. This guy is 9 out of 10 times checking me for AK. I raised, he thought and folded.
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Postby Improbable » Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:07 am

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Postby Stoneburg » Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:57 am

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Postby GodlikeRoy » Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:32 am

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby Stoneburg » Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:37 am

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Postby Zmej » Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:51 am

"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.

"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:01 am

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby Zmej » Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:13 am

I agree that on a dry flop like that one a call is posible, but we need to raise somewhere if we want to take a stack from TP (assuming we have an overpair).

And as always in 6max it is very style/ player dependent. Against CS who a ready to call 2 barrels with middle pair I raise it like always. Against a TAG I call here most of the time.
"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.

"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
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Postby T-Rod » Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:04 pm

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