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Postby GooperMC » Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:04 pm

FullTiltPoker Game #1331517047: Table Laurelglen - $1/$2 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo - 20:05:41 ET - 2006/11/30
Seat 1: Gamblin4Jesus ($204.30)
Seat 2: princeofpop ($202.50)
Seat 3: VooDoo Chile NY ($75.50)
Seat 4: tristanbk ($462.65)
Seat 5: jozo2008 ($183.50)
Seat 6: BillTheButcher8 ($444.40)
Seat 7: xcentricity ($324.90)
Seat 8: PkrNooblet ($0), is sitting out
Seat 9: PiranhaFlower ($192)
tristanbk posts the small blind of $1
jozo2008 posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #3

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Gamblin4Jesus [Ac] [9c] [2d] [Qh]
BillTheButcher8 folds
xcentricity folds
PiranhaFlower folds
Gamblin4Jesus raises to $7
princeofpop folds
VooDoo Chile NY folds
tristanbk calls $6
PkrNooblet adds $80
jozo2008 folds
PkrNooblet has returned

*** FLOP *** [8h] [3d] [5h]
tristanbk bets $16
Gamblin4Jesus ???

Over 48 hands tristanbk is loose and slightly agressive (VP$IP 61, WtSD 28, W$SD 63, Total Agg .44).

What is your line? If you choose to continue what do you do if the turn blanks and he pots into you?
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Postby Phil153 » Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:11 pm

BIG WORDS
It's good to know about four or five biggish words you can stuff into a conversation so you sound well read. Don't fuck them up the way black people do, but don't overuse them either. We recommend putting your fancy word next to a swear. Here are some examples: "…so she walks in all precocious like we give a shit," or "…and it's the same old pedantic bullshit he's always going on about," or "She's got this big fucking turgid zit right in the centre of her face."
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Postby GooperMC » Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:23 pm

Just in case anyone was wondering
- I have 39% PE against [Ah] [2s] XX
- I have 35% PE against [Ah] [2h] XX
- I have 40% PR against [Ad] [2c] XX
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Postby JDLush » Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:33 pm

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Postby Phil153 » Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:48 pm

BIG WORDS
It's good to know about four or five biggish words you can stuff into a conversation so you sound well read. Don't fuck them up the way black people do, but don't overuse them either. We recommend putting your fancy word next to a swear. Here are some examples: "…so she walks in all precocious like we give a shit," or "…and it's the same old pedantic bullshit he's always going on about," or "She's got this big fucking turgid zit right in the centre of her face."
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Postby GooperMC » Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:05 pm

Rhound - I got 2 outted in a $2000 pot last year, I have also broke a cup in half playing catcher. The feelings were similar.
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Postby Phil153 » Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:33 pm

- How often do you think I get an A2 to fold?
rarely against a player this loose

- How often do you think he has something other then A2?
30% at least against a player this loose, especially if you're a tight preflop raiser.

- What do you think about a call, and go nuts with a happy turn?
What happy turn? A Q or 9? That's less than 1 time in 7. Going by your analysis, a 4 isn't going to help your situation much at all. If you mean making a move on the turn, then sure. I prefer raising now and pushing the turn when checked to, if he calls.
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Postby GooperMC » Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:41 am

Rhound - I got 2 outted in a $2000 pot last year, I have also broke a cup in half playing catcher. The feelings were similar.
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Postby JDLush » Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:47 am

Ok, let's see how you fare if you get what you wish for. I'll pick the best possible cards when I can (i.e. not a heart), and assume he has a naked A2 like you do:
On the flop:
board: 8h3d5h
Hand Pot equity Scoops Wins Hi Ties Hi Wins Lo Ties Lo
ac9c2dqh 39.45% 0 140,677 111,998 0 553,495
a2** 60.55% 30,626 347,325 111,998 46,505 553,495

Q on the turn:
board: 8h3d5hQc
Hand Pot equity Scoops Wins Hi Ties Hi Wins Lo Ties Lo
ac9c2dqh 57.85% 0 371,716 75,365 0 569,515
a2** 42.15% 12,678 152,919 75,365 30,485 569,515

9 on the turn:
board: 8h3d5h9s
Hand Pot equity Scoops Wins Hi Ties Hi Wins Lo Ties Lo
ac9c2dqh 55.07% 0 339,416 72,951 0 569,798
a2** 44.93% 13,880 187,633 72,951 30,202 569,798

J on the turn:
board: 8h3d5hJs
Hand Pot equity Scoops Wins Hi Ties Hi Wins Lo Ties Lo
ac9c2dqh 40.16% 0 157,136 80,441 0 569,136
a2** 59.84% 21,989 362,423 80,441 30,864 569,136

Can't do the high only cards but it can't be much different than the J would be I'd imagine.

Unless I'm missing something, your absolute best case scenario might make you a 58/42 favorite after the turn.

If he was an uber-tight nit that you could push off a hand and would be smart enough to fold a naked A2 then make a play. Since he doesn't appear to be such a player, then why bother?

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