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3/6 (6max) AQs OOP v. shortstack

Postby DonkiFornication » Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:47 am

OK. I have big problems with shortstacks, especially OOP that just shove every flop they like. He was playing check/push to every flop he liked OOP and potting every flop he liked when checked to. He's your typical bonehead that sat with $150 and doubled up with 88 when he check/called all-in the flop after hitting his set and putting the pot $36 in PF and cracked JJ. But he's shoved 2 other flops that I remember and not been called.

He's been here for 45 minutes at most and that was the only hand he's showndown besides when he limped OTB with T9s behind 4 others and called 2/3pot on the river after the hand was checked down beforehand (Board: Q-4-4-9-7rbw).

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $940
CO: $355.50
Button: $473
Double Gutted: $922
BB: $669.50

Pre-flop: (5 players) Double Gutted is SB with [As] [Qs]
UTG folds, CO raises to $18, Button folds, Double Gutted raises to $55.50, BB folds, CO calls $37.50.

Anyone just calling here? If so, how would you have approached this flop?

Flop: [Jd] [Ts] [6c] ($117, 2 players)
Double Gutted bets $99, CO raises all-in $300, Double Gutted calls.

Anyone going for the CRAI here? Or bet smaller and fold to a push?

Thoughts from PF to flop call? Should I be making so many actions made to commit myself to these stacks in spots like this?
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Postby black_knight6 » Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:27 am

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Postby Dumb Snowman » Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:35 am

Partake in my bollocks, bloody chav!
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Postby Zmej » Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:17 am

"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.

"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
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Postby T-Rod » Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:51 am

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Postby Triple B » Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:03 pm

I think against a shorty you need to punish him with actual hands. I don't hate the reraise though, but make it bigger because you are OOP without a premium pair. As played preflop, I think I like the "bet smaller and fold to a push" line on the flop.

T-rod- In general shorties feel they have to go to the felt with TP because they are correct to do so. This guy is 1/2 stacked now, so is not critically short, but if he was much shorter he would be correct to felt TP or better (as long as he is playing decent cards as a shorty should be doing to play correctly). I know...most shorties do not play this way, but that is how to play a short stack. Play tight and felt TP or better pretty much sums it up.

For example, in a non-reraised pot heads up, at 3/6 the pot could easily be $50 on the flop. If shorty has say $175 behind and flops TPTK, he should be trying to get all the money in here almost all the time (probably by the turn).
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