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Postby Zmej » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:42 pm

I was rather active like 32/16/2. BB is a regular with 18/10/2 after 180 hands.
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Seat 3: Hero [8c] [8d] ($364.00 in chips)
Seat 4: Player1 ($694.70 in chips)
Seat 8: Player2 ($328.55 in chips)
Seat 9: SB ($645.40 in chips)
Seat 10: BB ($425.40 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
SB posts blind ($2), BB posts blind ($4).

PRE-FLOP
Hero bets $14, SB calls $12, BB bets $52, Hero calls $42, SB folds.

FLOP [6c] [Tc] [6s]
BB bets $85, Hero calls $85.

TURN [6c] [Tc] [6s] [4h]
BB checks, Hero checks.

RIVER [6c] [Tc] [6s] [4h] [4d]
BB checks, Hero checks.
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Postby iceman5 » Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:12 pm

II think you have it backwards Ojingo.

If you call the flop, you absolutley need to bet the turn when he checks to you. If you dont bet the turn (which I think is bad) then checking behind on the river is the best play.

People who reraise preflop OOP almost always have a big pair or AK. His CB means nothing. You call, which is questionable but ok sometimes.

When he checks the turn, why would you give him a free river card to outdraw you?

Bet the turn and if he CRAI, then fine, you fold.

Once the guy checks the turn and river, hes not calling a river bet, but every now and then he might check raise you, so checking and showing down is best. Youve got the winner with this action 85% of the time.
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Postby iceman5 » Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:14 pm

I doubt A high is calling very often. Hes going to put you on a T or a pocket pair unless hes pretty dumb.
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Postby Zmej » Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:39 am

"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.

"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
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Postby Zmej » Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:54 am

"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.

"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
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Postby Zmej » Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:57 am

"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.

"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
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Postby shobute » Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:19 am

First, unless you have another reason I would not think an 18/10 is squeezing here very often.
So when you title your post "anti-squeeze", it looks like you may be having the wrong idea.
This is not to say calling is a mistake.

Second, a decent sized turn bet is pretty essential here.
Otherwise your flop call is pretty spewy.
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Postby Zmej » Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:33 am

"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.

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Postby Zmej » Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:12 pm

"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.

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Postby iceman5 » Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:42 pm

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Postby Zmej » Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:57 pm

"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.

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Postby iceman5 » Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:21 pm

On the turn the pot is $286. I dont know what you consider a weak probing bet, but a normal bet here would be 1/2 pot. Once you bet $140, you only have like $80 left. He cant possibly think youre going to fold if he CRAI.

Even if you only bet $100, you would only have about $125 left. Only a moron would think he would have any FE if he check raised all in. People just dont do that with AK. if he was going to bluff with AK, he would push the turn.
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