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Mediocre hand, mediocre draws vs a table full of bad players

Postby MTPaid » Fri Dec 22, 2006 5:53 pm

In no way do I consider myself a good OH/L player, but compared to these players I was Chip Reese. UTG+1 is especially bad. I'm only seeing a flop with this hand in the blinds. Can I call profitably on this flop?

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Limit Omaha Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
7 players


Pre-flop: (7 players) OneOutWinner is SB with [4c] [2d] [Td] [8c]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, OneOutWinner calls, BB checks.

Flop: [7h] [3c] [9c] (7SB, 7 players)
OneOutWinner checks, BB bets, UTG raises, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, OneOutWinner calls, BB calls.

Turn: [6d] (7.5BB, 4 players)
OneOutWinner checks, BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, OneOutWinner calls, BB calls.

River: [Js] (11.5BB, 4 players)
OneOutWinner bets, BB calls, UTG raises, UTG+1 folds, OneOutWinner calls, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 17.5BB

I figure I have 6 outs to the best high and 4 outs to the nut low so I had to call. I wasn't counting my clubs as outs, but UTG+1 was the biggest idiot at the table. He has previously c/r a flop on a community flop where he didn't even have a pair! His cold call is dead money to me.

Also, on the river, I didn't raise with the nut high because I was fairly sure that UTG had the nut low in which case I'm splitting the pot with him anyway so all a raise does is knock out the other player who I want to call. This is correct thinking, right?
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Re: Mediocre hand, mediocre draws vs a table full of bad pla

Postby Ojingo » Fri Dec 22, 2006 6:10 pm

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Postby MTPaid » Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:28 pm

I actually didn't think about the possibility of all the Aces being gone until after the hand. As I already said, UTG+1's cold-call did nothing, but increase my pot odds. I give him credit for nothing, but he now made this a marginal draw for me. If he hadn't called, I almost definitely would have folded. The fact that there were so many ways to still lose on the river is also why I didn't bet the turn. I realisticly thought that there were only 6 clubs that could hurt me on the river for the flush. [Ac] gives me the low half. There were 2 clubs on board, I had 2 clubs, and whoever was drawing had to have 2 clubs as well. Unfortunately I don't have enough time to think all the possibilities out until after the hand.
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