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Newbie Q about river value bets (SHNL 200)

Postby Anders » Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:43 am

Hi,

As you may or may not know, I mainly play PLO but fool around with SHNL sometimes for fun or bonus purposes. My NL game i would say ranges from poor to decent, and there are some things that totally escape me, like this topic for instance.

2 hands to follow, please don't refrain from commenting on other aspects of play since it's quite possible I'm doing everything wrong. During this session I was 21/10/2.4/4.9/3.8 over 760 hands.

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players


Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with [5c] [5h]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, 2 folds, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: [8d] [5d] [Jh] ($7, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets $4, Hero raises to $12, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: [8h] ($35, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $30, BB calls.

River: [Tc] ($95, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $32, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: $159

I know I grossly underbet this river (PLO underfull paranoia), what would be a decent amount?

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players


Stack sizes:
Hero: $379.50
CO: $276
Button: $269.75
SB: $69.75
BB: $259.50

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with [Qs] [Ts]
Hero raises to $6, CO folds, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: [6s] [Ah] [Ks] ($15, 2 players)
Hero bets $12, Button calls.

Turn: [5d] ($39, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: [4s] ($39, 2 players)
Hero bets $56, Button calls.

Results:
Final pot: $151

Here I was getting overconfident and bored (hence the UTG raise). Is this a good spot for the overbet push on the river or does my turn check make my flush obvious?

Like I said I would appreciate all comments regarding play.

/Anders
If the river don't kill you, it ain't PLO
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Postby black_knight6 » Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:19 am

1) Raise that preflop...but river bet about 60 is good (2/3 pot). No less than half pot, generally.

2) If you put him on the A, then the river overbet is good because it looks bluffy. No sense in betting more than what you did...people are more inclined to call the overbet NON push with weak hands, than the push...nihan.
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:06 am

I really like hand #2.
Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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