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Correct amount of river raise? $200NL SH

Postby iceman5 » Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:11 pm

$1/$2 NL at Tribeca

I limp 22 UTG +1 after UTG limps. All 6 players limp.

Pot $12. Flop [9d][8h][2c]. UTG bets $6. I decide to just call here even though I know it could mean I have to fold the turn. Button calls also.

Me ($195)
UTG ($84.
Button ($250)

Pot $30 Turn [9h] UTG bets $10. Hmm, I could raise now and get whichever one of them has a 9 all in, but Id rather just call and let the other guy who may have JT, come along. I call as does button.

Pot $60. River [Ks]. UTG bets $16 and has $48 left. I have $173 left and button has me covered. Whats the correct size river raise? I think I know the answer but I bet people will disagree. Lets here some thoughts. (only on the river as obviously I couldve played the other streets differently)
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Postby T-Rod » Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:00 pm

All in.

UTG is not a factor so we just focus on the button. What hands could he have to keep smooth calling there? OESD hands, a 9, and some AT/KQ type hand.

I think if you raise enough to put UTG all in, then you might as well push because the hands that call that VB are going to call the push too. I don't see any hands calling the VB but folding to the push.
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Postby iceman5 » Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:25 pm

I usually raise that flop. I probably shouldve have

On the turn I dont think a raise is mandatory. Theres only 2 more 9s left in the deck. I doubt that they both have one. UTG bet the flop and turn into 2 guys so Im pretty sure he as a 9. Wouldnt the button raise the flop with something like A9 to stop me from drawing? It does look like I have a flush draw or JT. I dont think the button has a 9 so I want him to keep chasing whatever hes chasing since hes drawing dead.

Now, the button didnt raises the turn either so I really don tthink he has a 9. Doesnt he have to raise the turn to get more money from me if Im drawing since Im fully stacked?

So if the button doesnt have a 9, how is he calling an all in? He has to know at least one of us has a 9. Hes not calling an all in with something like [Kh][Th], but maybe he'll call a smaller raise since the pot is decent size?

What if the button does have 9 but its a weak one like [9c][6c] or some crap like that and hes a afraid to raise somewhere? He could have that since the whole table limped in front of him. WIll he call $173 more. What about if I raise enough to put UTG all in which would be a raise to $65ish. Maybe the button would call that with 96s but not call $170.
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Postby NorthView » Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:33 pm

Are we not raising all pairs from EP in 6max, or is this a Tribeca adjustment?

Put the button about 1/2 in.
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Postby NorthView » Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:15 pm

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