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Postby Aisthesis » Wed May 04, 2005 3:33 am

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Postby slaz13 » Thu May 05, 2005 2:31 pm

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Postby Aisthesis » Fri May 06, 2005 12:09 am

Actually, I think that's completely relevant in this thread (I'm getting ready to do another one on some early strategy), and I like the strategy.

Obviously, though, I would think, you do want to be cautious going up against a stack that covers you. But once you've hit midway, I do think you need to be willing to get all your chips in the middle when you think you have the best of it (imo this is not the case early, and I'll give some samples for critique here in a minute).

Just as an example, for the QQ move, I'd need a read of what I'd call some looseness. At least if it was me, I'd never re-raise here with TT, which is just too vulnerable against a player such as yourself who has shown a lot of strength. I might indeed call and lose my stack if TT were an overpair, but such is life. So, anyhow, I'd say you had a good handle on the player and made an excellent move there.

One comment on "bullying." Here's the way it worked for me when I got into a big stack in an 18-player I just finished: Basically, I made quite a bit with a starting stack of 3,800 or so when the play got 6-handed (this is of course different in the big MTTs because you don't have the shorthanded phase). Basically, I was raising a lot of people off of the flop, but I only did it with good cards, of which I actually didn't get many 6-handed, but when it got down to 5, I was raising any A, any K in LP (debatably from any position, but I'm not sure whether I would have gone with K2o UTG even 5-handed), any pair. Now, in order to get to the big stack, I had turned over some serious monsters. So, for the most part everyone folded.

But what I WASN'T doing was just constantly raising on total crap, nor was I betting on missed flops. Anyhow, at full table in big stack, at least in my opinion, the idea is to loosen your raising criteria a bit but still certainly not go with crap. And for a pure LP blind steal, again at least for me, any 2 cards will indeed work against a medium stack playing tight, but I think it's important not to get overzealous about it. Basically, the big stack needs to win a disproportionately large share of small pots but avoid big ones except with some very serious holdings. I've also frittered away some big stacks, too, at times, and there's just no need to do it.
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Postby slaz13 » Fri May 06, 2005 7:37 pm

I agree for sure, that it is necessary to have at least some type of hand when you are doing the stealing...I'll usually raise with QJo, J10o (in LP), and any suited connectors. Basically any hand I am going to play anyway.

I think you touched on a good point too, about doing it against medium sized tight stacks. Best to stay away from the small (too likely to go all-in), and big (for obvious reasons), once you have taken your chance and doubled up.

Also if you are bullying a medium stack with some thing like A9, K 10, something like that, even a low pair, it is important to lay it down if they play back at here. Too many people will feel "committed", and call the in and hope their hand will hold up. Chances are if they are playing back at you, they have a premium hand, as they can't affod to be messing around.
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