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Two Nut Flush Draws (200NL)

Postby T-Rod » Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:12 am

I think the one hand where I disagree with the "standard" push is when you have the nut flush draw and get raised. I think its very opponent specific and board specific, because you are often against a set.

Two examples last night from Prima 200NL.

1) Opponent is fully stacked and pretty tight running 20/9/3.
He limps, I pop it up with A[s] J[s] in the BB, and only he calls.
Flop ($18) A[d] 7[s] 3[s]. I lead $16 and he min raises.


2) I have A[c] 5[c] and raise the BB. Villain is in SB, he's decent, but I've pounded him a bit. He's 28/9/2.5
Flop ($16) 4[c] 2[c] 9[d]. He leads $12, I raise to $28, he insta-reraises to $56.


What's your plan for each hand and do you put anyone on a set/two pair here (which is what you really worry about with the NFD).
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Postby ua1176 » Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:39 am

hand 1: call. here are many reasons to shove with a pair + NFD but not so many reasons to shove with TPGK+NFD. you dont want to blow him off a flush draw, weaker A-x, bluff, etc etc. and you only have 9 outs vs. a set.

hand 2: shove. 12 outs. whatever.
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Postby Zmej » Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:40 am

Hand1. Here I like a call. He will not fold anything you beat here, and I doubt that he will call a push with a worse A.

Hand2. Easy push. With your history of SB vs BB, 12 very good outs, and 3 additional outs against TT-KK make it a push.
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Postby iceman5 » Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:45 pm

#1) I reraise but not all in.

#2) I just call.

Zmej, I hope you misspoke when you said "Here I like a call. He will not fold anything you beat here" because if he wont fold anything that you beat, then I would say thats a good time to push in.
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