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Another hand from commerce - SH 200NL

Postby Jux » Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:12 pm

The tables short with 5 players and we're about ready to break but decide to play another hand before it does.

Blinds 2/5

Dealt A[c] Q[d] in the big blind.
Folds to the button who min raises to 10. SB calls and so do I. Could have re-raised here but for some reason I didn't, probably because I didn't want to get too committed on the last hand of the table.
I have about 450 and button covers.
Button is generally a loose player pre-flop but has shown really strong hands when committing his chips to the pot.

Pot: ~30

Flop: A[h] Q[h] 3[s]

SB checks, I check, Button leads out for 10 again. SB folds and I just call because weak leads usually mean weak hands and I want more money in the pot. On hind sight I should have probably lead out for about 20-25. Oh well.

Pot: 50~
Turn: 5[c]

I check and button bets 20. I CR to 60. Button re-raises to 150.
Hero curses at himself for playing the hand so badly and..........?
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:18 pm

Shoves.

You should definitely lead the flop, or CR when you get the chance.

Your raise on the turn should be slightly larger too, you're giving him too good odds if he has a flush draw, especially if it contains a gutshot or OESD as well. I would raise to about $85 from his $20 bet. When he re-raises, you should shove. If he has AK he's probably calling. He could also have A3 or A5. AA or QQ is also possible but unlikely (only 1 combination of each is left) and 33/55 is also possible if he raises all pairs preflop. Still, he could have a flush draw here and you want to make him pay and make it so that you get all his money even if he misses. There's also the chance he has a hand like AK and will fold to too much action on the river if another heart falls, or similiarly if he has A3 he will fold if a 5 or Q comes on the river.
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Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby Danhdan » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:50 am

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Postby Zmej » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:16 am

"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.

"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
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Postby iceman5 » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:47 am

"SB checks, I check, Button leads out for 10 again. SB folds and I just call because weak leads usually mean weak hands and I want more money in the pot."

Heres what I think when I see this. You wanted more money in the pot? You got your wish, now shove some more money in the pot.

There are some hands that beat you but also alot of hands that hes not folding even to a push, so I push.
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Postby Devbert » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:33 pm

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Re: Another hand from commerce - SH 200NL

Postby black_knight6 » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:34 pm

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Postby Zmej » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:42 am

"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.

"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
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Postby k3nt » Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:00 am

Weak then strong is a monster. Only question is whether this guy thinks A5 A3 AK is a monster here. I don't play live so I have no clue.
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Postby iceman5 » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:39 pm

I would never min raise preflop like that, but I would consider A5 and A3 a monster here.
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Postby Danhdan » Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:38 pm

"Million dollar play, ten cent finish."

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Postby Danhdan » Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:50 pm

"Million dollar play, ten cent finish."

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