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25NL FR, how to make him pay?

Postby RedBarracuda » Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:22 am

I am basically interested in how to make the chaser pay for his flush chase.. how to get more from him in this case and if it is even possible to get more?...

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players


Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP1 with [9h] [9d]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, 3 folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: [Ad] [Qc] [9c] ($1.25, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets $0.25, Hero raises to $2, Button calls, 3 folds.

Turn: [Jd] ($5.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $5, Button calls.

River: [7s] ($15.5, 2 players)
Hero raises all-in $4.4, Button folds.
Uncalled bets: $4.4 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $15.5

I know the Villain since I played with him a similar hand where he chased and got his flush on the river with 85s so I knew he is willing to chase the flush, but I still don't know how much would he or someone like him be willing to pay for that draw.... any ideas how to make him pay more and if it's possible? I was affraid to push it on turn since it would be quite a overbet there and I didn't think he would call that.. My idea was to try and extract most money from the guy.... btw. PT ranks the Villain as weak tight, but I think it's because he just folds when he doesn't get what he wants on the river...
any suggestions?
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Postby Jossnaz » Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:14 am

Always bet on duke
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Postby Yenool » Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:55 am

Holdem Newbie...
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Postby black_knight6 » Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:20 am

...stop playing 25nl plz.
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Postby RedBarracuda » Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:12 pm

I didn't realize that the stack sizes were not present..... it's just that sometimes the converter adds them to the conversion and sometimes it doesnt ... I didn't know that sometimes it doesn't so I didn't check... sorry...

lol... I stopped playing NL25 ... thus and some other hands that I posted are the ones that I came upon when reviewing my stats in PT, and I use them in order to learn something from them for the future... don't worry, the next thing that I'll play will be NL5 with the intention of creating a sufficient +bankroll to eventually climb my way back to NL25 and higher....
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Postby k3nt » Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:07 pm

If you think he's on the FD then check/call the river -- give him a chance to bluff.
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Postby MTPaid » Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:40 pm

Considering that you were all-in on the river, he wasn't getting implied odds to chase a flush on the turn the way you played it anyway. Although I doubt that anyone min-betting into that flop in a 5-way pot realizes that.

Then again, if he had a flush draw there is a good chance he picked up some kind of straight draw on the turn too which means you probably could have pushed on the turn. If he's gonna call $5 there seeing what you have left, he's probably gonna call the all-in.
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