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Postby black_knight6 » Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:59 pm

Villian is an MTing TAG. 15.9/10.7/3.62 4k hands and a good winner (from my data, at least).

What range do we put villian on? When is this a push?

PF: 5 handed and I open raise UTG [8h] [8d] Villian in next position calls, as does the BB uber LPP donk.

Flop: Pot 25. [2s] [5s] [7c] LPP donk checks, I bet 19 (3/4 pot), villian raises to 55, donk folds, I?
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Postby Yenool » Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:30 pm

Well, I would fold, because I would feel at best I was up against 2-overs with a flush draw and at worst I am drawing to 2 outs.
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Postby Zmej » Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:55 pm

Insta-muck. 16/11 is a bit nitty for 6 max and I think his range crushes you, I think he has lots of sets, some better overpairs and rarely a big draw, i.e. his range is made mostly of made hands.

It's a push if you have AA.
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Postby ua1176 » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:03 pm

i dont think i ever push here with 88 against a 16/10. a range of sets, combo draws, overpairs, and draws + overcards puts you in really bad shape.
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Postby black_knight6 » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:16 pm

Do you think he does this with 99-JJ? The 'push'? question only applies if I think he can fold 99-QQ. Also, I'm just as nitty ;) haha
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Postby Zmej » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:25 pm

"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
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Postby Triple B » Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:39 pm

I weight his range more towards sets than anything else, but overpairs are also likely. IMO you are absolutely crushed by his range and you might get him to lay down 99-JJ, but that's about it.
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Postby iceman5 » Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:48 pm

I concur with everything already said. Im actually not crazy about raising 88 UTG because of spots like this one, but theres nothing wrong with it.
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Postby Xaston » Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:23 pm

Boy, you got me confused with a man who repeats himself.
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Postby black_knight6 » Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:13 am

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Postby GodlikeRoy » Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:32 am

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby ua1176 » Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:37 am

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Postby iceman5 » Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:14 am

People limp / call AJ, Q9s, KT...on and on and on.

They dont know that you can only have a PP there unless theyve played many many hours with you.
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