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NL 50 Aces deep facing flop push

Postby TheFirebird » Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:41 pm

50 NL @ Prima.

Villain is lag at 46/27/3 (850 hands) with a fairly wild image, but plays well post flop.

Seat 1: Villain $122.84
Seat 2: I_LIIIIKE $49.50
Seat 3: andy_eak $54.08
Seat 4: Hero $100.08 [Ad] [Ac]
Seat 5: Mods01 $94.75
Seat 6 Catoblepus $48.75 [Dealer]
Seat 7: FEEL-PAYNE $64.94 [Small blind]
Seat 8 Ostrich_ $84.59 [Big blind]

Villain raised to $2.00
I_LIIIIKE folded
andy_eak folded
Hero raised - $7.00
Mods01 folded
Catoblepus folded
FEEL-PAYNE folded
Ostrich_ folded
Villain called - $7.00

** Dealing the flop: [8c] [5c] [6c]
Villain went all-in - $115.84
HERO???

Thoughts and analsis appreciated!
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Postby pokeritsallskill » Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:51 pm

I'm pretty sure this is an easy call. I'm putting him on QQ or KK with the club in either of those hands.
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Postby TheFirebird » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:19 pm

Im definately not putting him on a big pair here, max TT. He has been generally tricky with AA and KK, and would have reraised me when he saw the opportunity of building a big pot wth these.

I also think he is aware that im probably sitting on a big hand here, and thats my main concern here. When he knows im strong, is this bet a value bet or a bluff/semibluff? With the nut flush draw and two cards to come, I obviously only have to be ahead of a reasonably small part of his range to break even, but he has usually made much smaller moves previously, so i have a hard time finding out what his massive all in means.

He is raising 27% of his hands, and most of these raises are 2$ raises so he could have anything here according to preflop action.
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Postby black_knight6 » Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:54 pm

He OPEN pushed?! Call. You happen to have the nut draw even if you're behind, and you're prolly not even behind.
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Postby briachek » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:18 am

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Postby black_knight6 » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:29 am

Ahhh...then QQ is possible, but KK is still definitely out...my bad
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Postby Yenool » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:52 am

Holdem Newbie...
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Postby MTPaid » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:16 pm

This is where I usually take my stand against the LAG and get stacked. If he does play well postflop, then he knows you're probably 3-betting a big hand, very possibly with the [Ac] or [Kc] and since he doesn't have the [Ac] he has to think there's a good possibility that you have the hand you have. Yet he still pushes into the 3-bettor. I'm not saying that this is a fold, but I think it's a lot tougher than everyone seems to think and

I'm thinking that I'm probably looking at KK with [Kc] at the very LEAST which would be great, but I'm seeing a set or better more often than people think.

He plays well post flop. He pushes a double stack into another double stack preflop raiser. Smells a little fishy to me that he's not afraid of Aces or the [Ac]. I probably call and get ready for heartbreak.
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Postby Danhdan » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:21 pm

Auto call; obv you have a FD and a pair that is ahead of opponent a large percentage of the time.
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Postby Devbert » Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:58 pm

Why would he go all-in if he flopped a flush? Doesn't make any sense, he'd want to make sure he got action, why force you off a naked over-pair or A-K with a single club?

He's probably got 7[X]7[c] or 8[X]7[c] - I can't see myself folding to this play at these stakes ever.
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