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Postby MTPaid » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:47 pm

Withdrawal punishment continues today. Another 2 out river set in the only decent pot I played today.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?928985

Almost had a good session today, but not quite. They tried to get me again when a 31/23 player who had previously check-raised me 2x raised. I flat called with TT. Flop came 626 and he bet pot. I called. Turn was another 2. He bet pot again. I folded, knowing that this is how they usually get me, he showed QQ. Screw that! LAG/Maniac bets, I fold now. I'm constantly running my good hands into their one big hand.

Here's my other pet peeve. 99 in the SB HU with the BB. I went to showdown with the best hand and lost 55 cents. What did the BB have? 99 too! This crap happens way too often, especially in blind vs blind battles. Why? They gotta get their rake. Solution: No rake in split pots.

Lucky enough to break even today because I did flop one nut straight and the preflop raiser bet 2x the pot on the Flop and the Turn drawing dead with AQo. Drawing dead seems to be about the only safe hands lately.


Limp/push experiment Update:
One AA today although I shoulda pushed that AK hand too and taken it preflop. +$4. There was a short stack who I thought would call me but didn't.

17 pushed - 5 calls (29%) = +$1.70 +$0.10 per push
AA: 3 push - 1 call = (-$48.75)
Calls = 0 Wins 1 Loss
http://www.pokerhand.org/?762382 (AKs)
KK - 4 pushes - 1 call = +$32.10
Calls = 1 Win 0 Losses
http://www.pokerhand.org/?811632
QQ: 1 push - 1 call = (-$41.70)
Calls = 0 Wins 1 Loss
http://www.pokerhand.org/?767894 (AKo)
AK: 7 push - 2 call = +$54.75
Calls = 1 Win 1 Loss
http://www.pokerhand.org/?787600 (A9o)
http://www.pokerhand.org/?790129 (QQ)
76s: 1 push - 0 calls = +$4
Calls = NONE
65s: 1 push - 0 calls = +$2.50
Calls = NONE
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Postby MTPaid » Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:03 pm

This would normally be where I have one of those long rambling posts, but I have too much to do now. Finally got my Google Adsense account approved for my blog and I gotta go set that up. But I had an insane NL session followed by a slightly crazy Limit session full of calling stations. I was lucky enough to River a boat with AK on an xKxAA board and cap it with AT from EP and then flop a set with KK and get called down by a station with KT. Anyway that was the limit session.

NL I kinda played like a maniac and was down over 2 stacks almost immediately. I never put my money in dead though and I was hoping that my earlier indescretions would get me paid off later when I did hit 5 sets, but damn not even! Ended up dropping about $10.

I had just lost a decent pot the hand before and only had $38. I was UTG and figured I'd wait till the blinds passed to reload. Perfect opportunity to advertise here or steal a pot I figured. This one will go in the limp/push experiment.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?932187
Oh well. I'm not that upset about it. I was actually only a 44% dog when the original raiser said that he folded KQ.

This one kinda sucked a little later though. Notice the insult on the Rivered 2 pair.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?932198

So that did get me paid off on my 1st set vs the guy who said that he folded KQ against me. He got another chance with it here. Even though he turned 2 pair here, WTF am I 3-betting with that is gonna call his AI there even if I am a nut? Every conceivable calling hand that I could have here has him crushed. Fortunately for him, he got his money in dead. :lol:
http://www.pokerhand.org/?932209

Then the 2nd set should get paid off by KK right?
http://www.pokerhand.org/?931846 (WTF????!!!!!)

3rd set...........
http://www.pokerhand.org/?932213 (SON OF A BITCH!)

4th set......
http://www.pokerhand.org/?931849 (JESUS CHRIST HOW DID I NOT STACK HIM AGAIN!)

So much for a loose aggressive image. 4 sets after pushing like a nut and I only pick up $53 combined vs 2 pair, pockets Kings, and top 2 pair while losing the minimum once to a straight. HOW???



Limp/push experiment Update:
Just the 65s today.

18 pushed - 6 calls (33%) = (-$31.80) (-$1.77) per push
AA: 3 push - 1 call = (-$48.75)
Calls = 0 Wins 1 Loss
http://www.pokerhand.org/?762382 (AKs)
KK - 4 pushes - 1 call = +$32.10
Calls = 1 Win 0 Losses
http://www.pokerhand.org/?811632
QQ: 1 push - 1 call = (-$41.70)
Calls = 0 Wins 1 Loss
http://www.pokerhand.org/?767894 (AKo)
AK: 7 push - 2 call = +$54.75
Calls = 1 Win 1 Loss
http://www.pokerhand.org/?787600 (A9o)
http://www.pokerhand.org/?790129 (QQ)
76s: 1 push - 0 calls = +$4
Calls = NONE
65s: 2 push - 1 calls = (-$31.00)
Calls = NONE
http://www.pokerhand.org/?932187
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Postby MTPaid » Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:10 pm

69 - 62 - 68

What do those numbers mean? They mean that for the 3rd night in a row I bubbled the $26K.

Last 3 hands I played.

69% - Yeah, T4o.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?935061

62% - God forbid anything is easy.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?935064

68% - You know you're dead when you see your opponent holding an Ace.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?935062
Notice how many chips Mr. T4 has by this hand. He had since pushed KTo and KJs after complete river misses and hit some more miracle cards. God and Full Tilt watch out for stupid people who can't take care of themselves.


What? Am I supposed to feel good that I re-sucked on the 2nd hand or something? OK! I'M SORRY I WITHDREW! Is that enough? After what I've heard about some live 1/2 NL games down in AC, I'm seriously considering taking out the rest of the money and taking a weekly trip if this shit is going to continue.

7 straight losing sessions at LO8 too. I can't tell you how many times I was quartered or had the nuts and was 3 out scooped on the river in heads up or 3 way pots. Apparently nothing less than the nuts ON THE RIVER is good enough for even half a pot online. Much different than I've read. A23 is always good for the nut low on the flop, but usually turns into a useless 2 pair by the river. I'd post some hands, but it would make me too sick to see them again.
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Postby briachek » Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:30 pm

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Postby MTPaid » Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:42 pm

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Postby MTPaid » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:40 pm

Sometimes you think your being cute and sneaky, but then you realized that you coulda just shoved all-in preflop and gotten the same results anyway.

Anyway it seems I need at least a set of Aces to stack someone. This was pretty sick. AA vs KK preflop and we both flop a set. I had planned to throw out a nice c/r on the flop, but it looks like we were both being cute.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?941095

Then I went and blew most of it off on a bluff on my last orbit. I hadn't gotten out of line at all on the table and both of us had $100 stacks on a 50NL table. He decided he wanted to play for his entire stack with JJ postflop. Gutsy, but he was right.

http://www.pokerhand.org/?941101
I can sure pick my spots sometimes. I think that was the biggest bluff I'd tried to pull off since I've been playing at that level. Stupid.

Too busy to play poker today. Yard work, website/blog work, no sleep last night because of my other re-newed addicition, OOTP baseball. It's a sickness. I caved in and bought the new game after playing the demo. I wonder how many hours/days/weeks/months I'm going to waste on this. I may never sleep again.

Year Results:
WEEK 1 +$95.60 (23h 11m)
WEEK 2 +$61.05 (14h 53m)
WEEK 3 +$159.12 (18h 42m)
WEEK 4 -$193.65 (26h 45m)

JANUARY +$152.69

WEEK 5 +$57.85 (25h 32m)
WEEK 6 -$167.65 (26h 17m)
WEEK 7 +$52.09 (26h 40m)
WEEK 8 +$76.77 (22h 17m)

FEBRUARY -$11.89

WEEK 9 +$4,628.97 (21h 10m)
WEEK 10 -$121.41 (11h 53m)
WEEK 11 -$218.20 (17h 59m)
WEEK 12 -$103.72 (20h 59m)
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Postby MTPaid » Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:13 pm

NL has been an SOB still. It seems the only time I can stack someone is when I have some ridiculous hand to beat their ridiculous hand. (Set of Aces vs set of Kings or A-hi flush vs Q-hi flush) When I'm flopping sets I'm not getting paid, but when I'm bluffing they absolutely seem to know. And then you have to throw in the random suckout after your all-in. Almost finished up a stack today but got it all in with J7s on a J97 flop. Early position limper had raised the BB. I thought he might have limped with an overpair and pushed. He called with 88. 10 on the river gave him his gutshot. Standard. At least he was only a half stack so I still finished slightly up.

Limp/push experiment update:
1 hand yesterday. AKs EP. I pushed to a large button raise and they folded.

19 pushed - 6 calls (32%) = (-$27.80) (-$1.46) per push
AA: 3 push - 1 call = (-$48.75)
Calls = 0 Wins 1 Loss
http://www.pokerhand.org/?762382 (AKs)
KK - 4 pushes - 1 call = +$32.10
Calls = 1 Win 0 Losses
http://www.pokerhand.org/?811632
QQ: 1 push - 1 call = (-$41.70)
Calls = 0 Wins 1 Loss
http://www.pokerhand.org/?767894 (AKo)
AK: 8 push - 2 call = +$58.75
Calls = 1 Win 1 Loss
http://www.pokerhand.org/?787600 (A9o)
http://www.pokerhand.org/?790129 (QQ)
76s: 1 push - 0 calls = +$4
Calls = NONE
65s: 2 push - 1 calls = (-$31.00)
Calls = NONE
http://www.pokerhand.org/?932187 (AKo)
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Postby MTPaid » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:37 pm

I flopped 3 sets in the $26K tonight.

I was gone in about an hour.

Brutal effin beat of the night:
http://www.pokerhand.org/?950092
I woulda been top 5 in chips at the 1st break if I only coulda won this hand where I put my chips in as a lowly 73% favorite on the flop.

"That was brutal."
"Nah. Normal"

I waited for a while after that and of course flopped top pair 2nd kicker into Aces the very next hand I played.

Played another hour of LO8, losing my 9th session in a row and I did not win one portion of any pot the entire time. Lasted 50 minutes in a PLO8 MTT. I won half of one pot.

If I subtract that one big MTT score early in the month, I am about -$500 for poker on the year. That includes bonuses. If you take out that miraculous limit hand I posted about yesterday in the limit forum, I'd be down again this week too.

I should just take my win and consider myself lucky, right? There doesn't seem to be much sense in continuing to play online. I'm running horribly, I probably suck too, and I really don't feel very secure having my money online longterm anymore.

Take out the one big one and I've played 85 other MTT's this year so far without a $100+ cash. This includes about 30+ $26 buy-ins.
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Postby MTPaid » Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:23 pm

The one thing I just still can't understand is how almost every single player I see with a VP$IP over 50 constantly crushes the table. No matter when you stand up to them, they end up showing you a boat with J6o. I think I mentioned this in a thread in the NL section, but 2/3 of the players with 50% VP$IP or more in my database are winners. Since then I've gotten 3 more. All winners too!

I was up to $115 on a 50NL table today, the result of overplaying a set I think. I'll post that hand later. The table was full of TAGs and Rocks and I was running over it. All of a sudden, 2 players leave and down sit to 2 nuts. One 40/13/33 and the other 70/8/29. They beat the everliving hell out of me. They knew exactly when I had a hand and when to bet into me and when to raise me. I couldn't mess with them or they showed me a hand that had my pretty good hand beat every time. The 70/8/29 was doubled up to $100 by the time I left and I only had $66.50. How did that happen? I lost 10 hands in a row to the maniacs. Of course Mr 70% showed me KK once and then pot bet me 2x on this hand which I'm sure if I pushed my OESD + 2 overs, he woulda shown me a monster.
[Kh][Jh] CO
Jackass limps UTG
I raise to $2 and BB calls and he calls
[9d][7c][Ts] Pot $6.25
BB checks, jackass bets $6.25, I call, BB folds
[4c] Pot $18.75
Jackass bets pot again, I fold
I can't remember ever beating a maniac for a big pot. Ever!

Anyway, here was the set I think I overplayed. I got called which I can't believe. I thought he was better than pocket 9's. But should I have pushed the flop? I can't think of many hands that I want to push out on this board. There are no real draws except gut-shots and the only hands that will call are sets or ready made straights from the donker. I thought CO had a big hand. I was wrong, but he still called. Thoughts?

Fairly new to the table. No reads. Only showdown so far was a PFR w/ K8s CO. I flopped a FD+OC and put the Button all-in for $10 on flop when he min-raised my c-bet. He had QJo for top pair, but I hit the flush on the turn.

All full stacks, I have them both covered.
UTG+2 limps, CO raises to $2.25, I call OTB ([3h][3c]), UTG+2 calls
[6c][3d][2h] Pot $7.50
UTG+2 bets into raiser $5, CO raises to $15, me????

There's $27.50 in the pot now.
UTG+2 has $38.25 left. CO has $33.80
I'm fairly certain CO has an over-pair. I'm not worried about him. For some reason I didn't give UTG+2 a chance to stay in the hand when the worst he could have had was 55/44 drawing to a better set+GSSD. Unless he had a set or straight already in which case there is NO WAY he's folding.

Did I do the best thing and push there with $27.50 already in the pot or should I have let them both draw with no more than 8 outs combined at the most. Is there a real difference between min-raising to $30 there and pushing for $58? Is UTG+2 going to fold to one, but call the other?

Anyway......
CO called my push and showed [9d][9s] - Really? All he could beat was 77/88. Did he really think I'd push 77/88 vs a bet and a raise on the flop?

[2s] Pot $110.10
[4h] Yay me! Now I get to give it all away to the maniac.
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Postby MTPaid » Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:28 pm

March Results:
$50NL - 27h 54m -$0.85 (Yup! Negative 85 cents)
MTT's - 28 - 34h 3m +$4268.58
Horse .50/1 - 57m +$15.15
Omaha H/L (Lim + PL) - 9h 13m -$92.90
1/2 Limit (FR + 6 max) - 14h 16m -$5.75

Bonuses: +$90

Total: +$4274.23

Of 4th place of $50K Guarranteed on 3/3 = +$4600
Rest of month = -$325.77


Year Results:
WEEK 1 +$95.60 (23h 11m)
WEEK 2 +$61.05 (14h 53m)
WEEK 3 +$159.12 (18h 42m)
WEEK 4 -$193.65 (26h 45m)

JANUARY +$152.69

WEEK 5 +$57.85 (25h 32m)
WEEK 6 -$167.65 (26h 17m)
WEEK 7 +$52.09 (26h 40m)
WEEK 8 +$76.77 (22h 17m)

FEBRUARY -$11.89

WEEK 9 +$4,628.97 (21h 10m)
WEEK 10 -$121.41 (11h 53m)
WEEK 11 -$218.20 (17h 59m)
WEEK 12 -$103.72 (20h 59m)

MARCH +$4274.23
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Postby MTPaid » Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:43 pm

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Postby MTPaid » Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:21 pm

Dropped another stack and half in about 150 hands today.
- Got it all-in on with a pair + an OESD in a 3-way pot where I was getting about 2.4-1 on my money with the push. Turned my straight, but the board paired on the river naturally screwing me out of a big pot.
- Was playing a 15/2 game on the other table, couldn't get a hand so I decide to raise T8s vs 2 tight limpers. Rag flop and the rock pushes to my c-bet. NH.
- Lastly KK got called down by AQ with nothing until he hits an Ace on the river and takes a nice chunk of my stack. Same bozo next hand stacks someone with QQ vs TT and then stacks 2 players with 85 on an 885 flop vs Q8 and AA the very next hand. Then he procedes to tell everyone how hot he was. How does he do that? Call down with AQ and then pick up 3 stacks in 3 hands. I can't pick up 3 stacks in 3 sessions.

Anyway, this is pretty telling. In 3236 hands of NL50 since my withdrawal, I'm running at -12.04 BB/100. I'd actually be running at +20 BB/100 under either of the following 2 conditions......
- Hold'em were a 6 card game where the hand ended after the turn.
- The hand ended when all the money went in.

As I said in the Limit section, I've been messing around with 2/4 the past few days. Results aren't so good (just about even) cause I've been card dead and the stations are ruling there too, but the conditions seem to be great if the odds hold up over the long run.

Year Results:
WEEK 1 +$95.60 (23h 11m)
WEEK 2 +$61.05 (14h 53m)
WEEK 3 +$159.12 (18h 42m)
WEEK 4 -$193.65 (26h 45m)

JANUARY +$152.69

WEEK 5 +$57.85 (25h 32m)
WEEK 6 -$167.65 (26h 17m)
WEEK 7 +$52.09 (26h 40m)
WEEK 8 +$76.77 (22h 17m)

FEBRUARY -$11.89

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Statler: I wonder if there really is life on other planets?
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Postby DoctorHandles » Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:53 pm

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Postby MTPaid » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:40 pm

Statler: I wonder if there really is life on other planets?
Waldorf: What do you care? You don't have a life on this planet.
"Muppets In Space"

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Postby MTPaid » Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:25 pm

Statler: I wonder if there really is life on other planets?
Waldorf: What do you care? You don't have a life on this planet.
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"Full Tilt is rigged" - ED
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