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Postby briachek » Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:57 pm

FullTiltPoker Game #2052313983: Table General Miles - $0.50/$1 - Pot Limit Omaha - 15:50:50 ET - 2007/03/23
Seat 1: sbrugbyjr ($37.50)
Seat 2: Hero ($98.50)
Seat 3: gunnars ($48.40)
Seat 4: DevilOfHearts ($100.55)
Seat 5: roto65 ($154.45)
Seat 6: Torres1 ($96.85)
Seat 7: floptimist ($104)
Seat 8: chight ($91.95)
Seat 9: TheTouni ($52.40)
DevilOfHearts posts the small blind of $0.50
roto65 posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ad Qh As 7h]
Torres1 calls $1
floptimist folds
chight folds
TheTouni folds
sbrugbyjr folds
Hero calls $1
gunnars folds
DevilOfHearts calls $0.50
roto65 checks
*** FLOP *** [6s Kh Kd]
DevilOfHearts checks
roto65 checks
Torres1 checks
Hero checks
*** TURN *** [6s Kh Kd] [Ah]
DevilOfHearts checks
roto65 checks
Torres1 bets $2
Hero calls $2
DevilOfHearts folds
roto65 calls $2
*** RIVER *** [6s Kh Kd Ah] [2d]
roto65 checks
Torres1 bets $5
Hero raises to $15
roto65 has 15 seconds left to act
roto65 raises to $25
Torres1 is sitting out
Torres1 folds
Hero ???

roto65 is 65/7 and somewhat passive. I called on the turn to let flush draws in thinking that unless someone has AK, maybe K6, that was the best way to make money and i could still get money from them on the river. However, turn play definitely up for comments. However, this guy min raises the river after a 1/2 pot bet and a 3x raise. Now if I push, he is def calling with AK and KK, but not fully sure of K6 and K2, 66 or 22. So is the river a call or reraise?
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Postby Ojingo » Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:04 pm

River is a call: he just reraised, which eliminates K6, K2, 66, 22 from his range unless he's insane. Call and pray he got out of line with AK.
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Postby briachek » Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:30 pm

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Postby Ojingo » Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:51 pm

Depends on your reads, if you think they'll call with any K or a lower boat be my guest and raise to $8 or so.
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Postby Aisthesis » Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:56 pm

On the turn, I'll sometimes mini-raise here--really just kind of adjusting it to something vaguely substantial. But I'll also sometimes flat call and even sometimes raise bigger (the latter mainly if it's someone who'll stack off on any K). I really think what you do there has more to do with your take on opponents and stuff like that. There are no more outs to protect from except the (hopefully) 1 remaining K, and you're right about pricing flush draws in. The only thing on the flat call, though, is that you're hoping to pick up an extra $2 here, and maybe another $8 or so if the flush hits. That's reasonable, but the question is whether that little bit extra isn't more than compensated if the other guy will put in very big amounts on trips of any kind, quite aside from boats.

I also call the river after all that action. He's repping KK, but I'm obviously not laying this down. He honestly shouldn't have AK the way he bet it. Just thank the poker gods that he didn't 3-bet pot, as he should have.
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Postby Kuso » Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:14 pm

i think a lot of your line depends on how you play other hands.

for example, i'd almost always raise this up pf... but i do a lot of pf raising with position. i'd also bet at the flop, but i sometimes bet at paired boards with light hands. i'd normally raise the turn, but again, i'm raising with a wide range in a small pot. if you're nut peddling, the turn raise is a dead giveaway that you probably have AAxx or AKxx.

as for the river, i can't really fathom flat-calling here unless villain only re-raises nut hands. i would be looking at some other stats (e.g., w$sd, wsd raise river), but in general i would guess that a 65/7 would make this river reraise with less than quads. then again, i probably have a different table image than bri.
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Postby Kuso » Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:15 pm

i think a lot of your line depends on how you play other hands.

for example, i'd almost always raise this up pf... but i do a lot of pf raising with position. i'd also bet at the flop, but i sometimes bet at paired boards with light hands. i'd normally raise the turn, but again, i'm raising with a wide range in a small pot. if you're nut peddling, the turn raise is a dead giveaway that you probably have AAxx or AKxx.

as for the river, i can't really fathom flat-calling here unless villain only re-raises nut hands. i would be looking at some other stats (e.g., w$sd, wsd raise river), but in general i would guess that a 65/7 would make this river reraise with less than quads. then again, i probably have a different table image than bri.
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Postby briachek » Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:19 pm

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Postby Anders » Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:57 am

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Postby Felonius_Monk » Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:12 pm

I think it depends hugely on what you think of Torres. Unless he's a total doofus he has a K so you're freerolling on the river and should raise it up. I guess if he's a donk and the other guy is as passive as you say it becomes closer to a call.
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