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Postby Jossnaz » Mon May 07, 2007 5:20 pm

Hello

Is there some general rule when to flat call or when to push the river?
Of course there isn't the one and only rule which works always - but aren't there basic things? like not pushing all in with top 2 pairs when villain minraises on river? What hand do you need to call a minraise on river at low stakes


As always I'm not running well...
How do I best learn to play poker to the showdown?
I saw someone playing successfully with around 70% VPIP and preflop raise 40% at 10$ NL FULLRING.
I thought i'd copy that line - because I can learn a lot without losing too much (already lost 3 buyins within 1000 hands though, never because of small pots but only because I thought I had the bast hand and pushed)
What would you say, stay at my limit and play my normal game or try this fancy thing til i'm a winner there?

Here is one of those 2 pair hands which still cost me so much - not really much content
I didn't play 70% vpip but something like 35/18/2.7 at fullring - gives already a lot of action 4 tabling fullring
Always bet like half pot (sometimes slightly less/more) on flop and turn as normally I'm the one who was drawing to a hand. They keep folding to my bets or they fold at turn to a half pot bet - i was really surprised to see that.
Villain was one of those many tight players.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
10 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $1.80
UTG+1: $4.65
UTG+2: $12.77
MP1: $13.62
MP2: $2
MP3: $43.39
CO: $1.85
Button: $1.70
SB: $10.16
Hero: $11.07

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is BB with [As] [Th]
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, 4 folds, SB calls, Hero raises to $0.35, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, SB folds.

Flop: [5s] [7h] [Ad] ($1.15, 3 players)
Hero bets $0.6, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds.

Turn: [Tc] ($2.35, 2 players)
Hero bets $1, UTG+2 calls.

River: [4d] ($4.35, 2 players)
Hero bets $2, UTG+2 raises to $4, Hero raises all-in $7.12, UTG+2 calls.

Results:
Final pot: $22.59
UTG+2 shows 7d 7s
Hero doesn't show As Th
Last edited by Jossnaz on Mon May 07, 2007 5:25 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Postby Xaston » Mon May 07, 2007 5:25 pm

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Postby MTPaid » Mon May 07, 2007 6:24 pm

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Postby Rhound50 » Tue May 08, 2007 12:42 am

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Postby oatmealforxmas » Tue May 08, 2007 11:45 am

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Postby Rhound50 » Tue May 08, 2007 12:02 pm

This seems to be the current trend everyone wanting to be a LAG, its sexy, its more fun than playing tight and solid. People see Daniel N, Gus Hanson, Sam Farha and whoever else doing it on tv and it looks sexy. The problem is people dont realize how these guys got to this point, you cant just wake up one day and decided "I'm going to be a LAG." These guys slowly added more and more hands to their collection of playable hands until they felt comfortable playing tons of different hands. The problem is that so many people try to become LAGs without having first built up the basic skills.

The problem with doing this at $10 NL is you have no idea who even notices how you are playing. If you really think you look Laggy then put your money in with top 2 because people will play back at you a lot more. Seriously do yourself a favor and learn to play good poker first and beat these lower level games playing TAG. Trying to play LAG under $100 is pretty much pointless from my experiance. If you really want to play LAG play 6 max.
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Postby MTPaid » Tue May 08, 2007 12:40 pm

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Postby Jossnaz » Wed May 09, 2007 6:14 am

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