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QQ again giving me trouble 200$ NL 6max

Postby gsdavid » Tue May 15, 2007 3:43 pm

hand 1:
Preflop
Villian in this hand has 234$ and I have him covered. He is running at 40/16/1.4 over 125 hands. He limps UTG, rest of table folds, SB completes, so I raise [Qh] [Qc] to 10$. UTG calls and SB folds. I'm not sure what type of hand he can limp here except 22-66 or AA and not limp-reraise
Flop
[Jh] [Th] [9c] Pot: 22$
I CB my standard 17$. He just calls.

Turn
[As] Pot: 58$
Not a great turn..Now great deal of two pairs are likely as well as AQ AK. Im not sure what i beat a this point besides gut shots and flush draw. I check he bets 38$ and I decide to call figuring that I might have enough implied odds.

River
[Ad] Pot:132$
I check he bets 42$. It seems unlikely that he would bluff with such small aggression and with such a small bets..So hero's move?
Could you please suggest a better line?
tnx

hand2:

Preflop
Villian in this hand has 200$ and I have him covered. He is running at 18/15/4.4 and I've 3-bet him and 4-bet him a few times on several tables so he must be steaming about now. This is the first time i actually have a good hand. Table is 4 handed. Villian is UTG, he bets 8$ and OTB calls. I reraise [Qh] [Qd] to 33$. Vilian is the only caller.

Flop
[2s] [5s] [Ts] Pot: 76$
I bet 62$ to show him that I'm willing to play for stacks. To my surprise he just calls.

Turn
[5c] Pot: 200$
Villian has 104$ behind. At this point im not sure what hand he holds. What hand would just call flop? even if he has AA or KK or QQ with a spade he must fear a 4th flush card since its can either kill his action or possibly beat him if i have As. So i decide to push and hopefully get a call from a lower PP.

Basically today people have CR me with AK as overcards when i 3bet them, with 3rd pair PP's and called raise with T7s and pushed on 567 flop when i have 88. So..mostly they are willing to play for stacks with any reasonable hand.
Im not sure how to play this hand tough. I can either C/F flop or play for stacks..Im not sure that any other play would make sense
tnx for help
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Postby DoctorHandles » Tue May 15, 2007 4:16 pm

The better player should win the race. Always.
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Postby iceman5 » Tue May 15, 2007 4:26 pm

Raise more with QQ when youre OOP. Also, fold turn in hand #1. If a K or 8 hits, youre not going to get paid unless hes a total moron so you have no exrta impied odds and the pot odds arent there.
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Postby gsdavid » Tue May 15, 2007 4:47 pm

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Postby iceman5 » Tue May 15, 2007 7:22 pm

When I said raise more preflop, I was talking about hand #1. I would make it $10 on the button but closer to $14 in the BB.

Hand #2..I would make it $40 ot just flat call I think. Thats a bit nitpicky. Your reraise is fine. Your flop bet is fine also, although I would check the flop sometimes and see what happens. As played I think the hand plays itself...shove turn and hope you didnt get outflopped.
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