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Postby Twelver » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:14 pm

Villan is MyNameisHov..kind of tricky....likes to slowplay occasionally.

Can I call this river bet? All I really beat is [Ah] K.

What about the other streets? I was pretty lost on this one when he checked it back to me on the turn.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) from (Format: Bet The Pot)

Button ($34.85)
Hero ($335.30)
BB ($394.20)
UTG ($197)
MP ($99.70)
CO ($250.90)

Preflop: Hero is SB with [Jh], [Js].
1 fold, MP raises to $8, 2 folds, Hero raises to $28, BB calls $26, MP folds.

Flop: ($64) [9h], [5h], [Th] (2 players)
Hero bets $50, BB calls $50.

Turn: ($164) [6c] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

River: ($164) [9c] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $120, Hero ???
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Postby DoctorHandles » Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:48 pm

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Postby Twelver » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:03 pm

Mekos King (10:21:59 PM): one of the first rules of manlaw
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Mekos King (10:22:33 PM): then u suckup just long enuf to get close enough to killer obv

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Postby Electrolux » Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:03 am

But what hand could he have that would check behind on the turn?
He is not protecting his hand against the forth flush card, so that have me guessing that he is drawing to. He could of course be slowplaying a flopped set, but that doesn't make it better for you though

So he could have a higher PP with a heart?
Would he 4 bet you with QQ, or higher?

Other alternatives would be a SC like 9T?
The only hands I think you could beat is a JT where he is acting on your two checks.

I would muck this.
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Postby Twelver » Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:04 am

I beat AK with the [Ah] as well.
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Postby Electrolux » Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:07 am

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Postby Zmej » Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:53 am

I think we can rule out all fancy stuff like SC and Axs by preflop action, he called 3bet whan short preflop raise was yet to act, I think that at this point his range is like {AA-22, AK}.
If he had a set he would raise it on flop. AA,KK with heart raises flop or bets turn.
AK without a heart folds on flop, 22-66 folds too.
I also think that AA, KK without a heart would bet turn after calling on flop.

So we are left with [Ah] K, A [Kh], QQ, 88, 77.
If he bets QQ for value it's quite thin IMO, and he is likely to check 88,77 behind, figuring that he is likely to win against you in the showdown anyway.

Ok, my conclusion is that it's closer to call than to a fold, as he is unlikely to VB QQ this thin, while he is quite likely to bluff with AK.

P.S. As for not raising flop with AK, I think it's ok, beacuse they are quite deep.
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Postby Triple B » Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:20 pm

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Postby Twelver » Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:44 pm

Yeah I called he had [Ah] A
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Postby Triple B » Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:19 pm

I don't like his preflop line this deep.

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Postby DoctorHandles » Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:12 pm

Yeah I didn't notice you were semi-deep, I think he can flip over [Ah][X] on the river then and would probably call and hate it as well.
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