What's the normal range for this stat please?

Won $ when saw flop.

I run at 43.5% over past 80k hands with a Vp$iP of 32%.
Over last 10k hands figures are 45% W$SF and 30% Vp$iP (hey I'm tightening up and getting more respect -call me a nit )

I was chatting to Alex Mr last night and his is 30% W$SF with a Vp$iP of 18% (over 10k hands I think).

Obviously as he plays so much tighter pre-flop you would expect him to have a higher W$SF%

He thinks he is running bad, I think it's about playing fewer tables so I'm getting better reads and pressuring weakness more.

Any thoughts?

THIS POST HAS BEEN EDITED BECAUSE I AM A DONKEY AND PUT W$SD (at showdown) in the initial post.

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Mine is about 40%. I think optimally it should be higher than that though. 45%?

I think I read somewhere that Xast runs at 48%. I can understand that it goes up as you go up stakes as there are less multihanded pots.

But as I limp over 2/3rds of the time I put money in and see hands for free from the BB as well, I would think that getting it over 45% would be tough for me, esp at $100.

But its the differential with Alex Mr. that most intrigues me - esp. as I play so sLAG
I was astonished that a super-TAG (Alex Mr's) was 30%. Can we put his 100k breakeven run down mainly to the fact that he does't pressure opponents enough - even if his Vp$iP/PFR/Aggro/WtsD and W$SD are all seemingly in the normal range?

One problem with aggression in PT is that folding rather than calling is seen as the aggressive action. The same aggression stat can be reached in lots of different ways.

I will never reach max aggro as I often float (esp a flop with draws) when I suspect a missed flop and CB from an aggro player. I feel its important to throw auto-CBers off their game if at all possible as if they switch into check-fold mode when they miss it will win you a lot of $$ very easily (esp if they keep open raising with you in position behind). Yet I am shown as less aggressive for floating and taking it away from the CB'er on the turn than I would be if I just folded all missed flops.

So for you 6 maxxers playing the smaller stakes - say $50 and below - what is your W$SF running at - have we found Alex Mr's 'hole'? Is it the small pot poker that he is losing the money on?

My W$SF at 50NL Tribeca was only 34%. There are so many CSs in those games (and those are the types of players I was seeking) it's very hard to get that figure much higher IMO. I had to drop my natural flop aggression and in particular my CB% considerably.

30% does sound far too low, though. I bet that 4-5% difference would account for a lot of $.

I'm not sure what my stats are now, but for the recent 10K sample at 10NL it was 40%. That was with very nitty starting hand selection, and aggressive post flop play. If you run bad, however, 30% or even high 20's% would be expected. When I have a bad session, I'm down there.

I have no idea how you have such a high % with all the limping you do. I've recently begun changing my style to one more like yours, however. I should have some PT stats sometime next week to share with you. If it is in the 40's%, that will be pretty interesting.