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Postby DoctorHandles » Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:52 pm

After noticing half this forum has a chubby for cardrunners, I figured I'd hop on the bandwagon.

Heads up, NL$200. Hero has $267 stack on SB and BB covers. BB is running at 40/6.

1. Hero is on the button and raises to $7 with [7d][9d], BB reraises to $20 and hero calls.

2. Flop [Qd][Qc][5d], pot $40. BB leads $32 and hero calls.

3. Turn [8d], BB leads $100 and hero calls, saying he "doesn't see any value in raising here, as he's only gonna call me with hands that beat me." Shoving would be another $130.

Am I the only one who thinks not shoving is quite bad here?
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Postby Triple B » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:00 pm

I agree, that's an easy shove.

If he has you beat you can't fold the river anyway, so why not put it in now? If he has a decent Q he is not folding. Also, if you don't shove what do you do if the river is a diamond?
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Postby Xaston » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:03 pm

Boy, you got me confused with a man who repeats himself.
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Postby k3nt » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:36 pm

Definite shove time. "He's only gonna call me with hands that beat me" is simply not true -- there's no way someone who has say [Ad][Qs] or [Kd][Qs] can possibly fold to a push. Ditto something like [Ad][As] or [Kd][Ks]. Weak Qs will call if it's headsup, they'll have you on a bluff a certain % of the time. All sorts of medium strength hands may find a reason to call, even a bare [Ad].
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Postby Xaston » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:31 pm

Boy, you got me confused with a man who repeats himself.
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Postby DoctorHandles » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:47 pm

The better player should win the race. Always.
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Postby Xaston » Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:03 am

Boy, you got me confused with a man who repeats himself.
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Postby black_knight6 » Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:27 am

It's a shove...villain calls with any Q.
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