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Postby Semillon » Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:40 pm

UTG is a loose donk, button is running 15/10/4 after 50 hands, whats your move after the 4bet?

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Blinds: $1/$2
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $186.32
CO: $165.29
Button: $670.87
SB: $202.95
Hero: $309.55

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with [Kd] [Kh]
UTG calls, CO calls, Button raises to $10, SB folds, Hero raises to $32, UTG calls, CO folds, Button raises to $100, Hero ???
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Postby NorthView » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:56 pm

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When I play a patient and relaxed game I win - that simple.

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Postby EscapePlan9 » Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:04 am

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Postby iamChrisSCHMIDT » Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:28 pm

I would've called and seen the flop. Judging on the flop, you can then decide your next move depending on what kind of bet he makes. If he checks then I would bet half the pot, just to get a feel for where he is at.

But, if you call PF and an ace shows on the flop, if he bets big, then muck the kings. If he checks, then check right behind him.

I say this because alot of people will not bet out into a pot when they have hit an ace, as they will want there opponent to bet, and then they will most likely check-raise.

Having position on him is a huge advantage, if he checks flop and then the turn then put a bet out there to see what he does.

Worst case is that he has pocket aces, or has hit an ace on the flop.

Coming over the top and pushing pre flop is probably the worst thing to do, if you push and he calls, and shows an ace then you will need to dodge an ace.
But if you call, see the flop, and see no ace, then you can most likely say you have him covered.

But if you call and do see an ace on the flop, and he bets then muck.
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Postby DoctorHandles » Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:47 pm

Chris....

1) We're out of position.
2) Not 3-betting with KK is horrible.
3) Calling is probably the worst thing you can do.
The better player should win the race. Always.
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Postby iamChrisSCHMIDT » Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:55 pm

My bad, read it wrong.

IMO, when facing a fairly large re-raise pre flop, why would you go all in?

Like, even if he has A9 and calls, if he hits an ace you are pretty much done for, by seeing the flop, you can then decide what to do next, if an ace comes and he bets out big, then fold, if no ace comes then its an instant push.

There is always the off chance that he does have AA, if that the case then its just unlucky.
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Postby Semillon » Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:03 pm

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Postby EscapePlan9 » Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:06 am

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