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NL50 6max - KJs in SB .. weirdest hand ever for me...

Postby RedBarracuda » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:14 pm

Hero: $61
BB: $158
HJ: $48

Now, I have some reads...
BB chases flushes by checking in position and then he bets missed draws.. he also calls PFR with K3s and similar suited hands... he raises very wide range of hands even though he doesn't raise as often as the range he raises with suggests.. he is actually a so-so player.. it also says "steamer" in the notes for him..

HJ is a complete and utter moron who overbets whenever it is checked to him HU and he will do it 150% of the time.. he will bet "normally" though if it's not HU... I have a lot of !!!! written in notes for him and it says FISH, CS, ideal for slowplay..

I fought a couple of pots with both of them already and it feels that we have some kind of mistrust in each other's plays.. to put it like that..

Hero [Kd][Jd]..

HJ limps, BTN limps, I call and BB raises to $2... HJ calls, BTN folds, I call...

flop [3h][Js][Kh] ($6.20) .. I chck, BB chcks.. HJ bets $3, Hero raises to $13.. BB calls, HJ calls...

turn [8c] ($43.25) .. now.. I didn't expect this to happen at all.. I bet out $18.50 .. BB calls.. HJ calls...

river [9h] ($97) .. when I saw river card I felt that it's the single worst card that could have come there at this moment really, cause if one of them was chasing flush he probably got it (same with possible str8).. the river scares me big time and I bet only $15 .. BB calls and HJ mucks... incredible..

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Postby m9man » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:28 pm

shoulda bet more on the turn becuase u dont know what they both have - obv one hasa flush draw. but u gotta bet more than just enough to give reverse impl odds. id bet pot or at least 3/4 pot. or based on ur remaining stack and allin maybe appropriate.

why bet on the river if u put them on a flush draw? if u think u r behind and have a good hand but a hand that doesnt want to get raised - just check it.
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Postby DoctorHandles » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:30 pm

I might fold to the BB's raise preflop as being oop sucks, depends on table.

Flop is good, turn is disgusting, not sure how much you have left behind on the river ($30?), but I don't see how bet/folding getting like 10:1 is an option.
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Postby dropthe72 » Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:23 pm

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Postby EscapePlan9 » Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:29 am

PF marginal (after he raises at least). Against some players, I would raise this myself from the SB looking to take down the pot with a CB.

I lead this flop 100% of the time. Lead it for like $5 and hope someone has a raising hand. The turn bet was just a chip dumper. You had like $48 behind in a $43 pot. If you were confident in your read, you should get it all-in on this turn.
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Postby Stelvask » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:33 am

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Postby Rhound50 » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:38 pm

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Postby Stoneburg » Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:05 am

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Postby k3nt » Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:28 am

Push the frigging turn!!!!!! Sheesh that's a no brainer. You have about a pot sized bet left and you have a big hand but there are a ton of draws ... get it in now.
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