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QQ v. AA

Postby ConvictKeeper » Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:42 pm

I am struggling here.

I lost 150BB in a AA v. QQ confrontation. I have watched the vids and everyone says QQ is strong enough to get it in PF. The hand in question is a raise, re-raise and then I 3 bet my QQ's. Villain shoves for 200BB. Now what?

This is a 25NL game and I have seen this guy call a raise from the BB with K9 and he has shown down top pair weak kicker a ton. He has gotten it all in with AQ off.

When you are facing action like that, raise, re-raise then shove are queens strong enough at these levels? I don't believe they are and therefore should I discount the advice of everyone I have seen and heard?

I believe my read was right, I figured AK or a weaker pair based on past history, but the real question has to do with the QQ call to a shove.

HELP ME!
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Postby RedBarracuda » Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:29 pm

if the hand in question is that you raised, got re-raised, you 3betted and got shoved at... well, it sure looks like he has AA here however he plays his hand otherwise...

usually, i am not fond of getting it in with QQ preflop BUT, at NL25 it is pretty profitable cause you will get called and shoved at with a lot of crappy hands I think...
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Re: QQ v. AA

Postby Xaston » Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:42 pm

There seems to be a lot of confusion with regards to pre flop bet numbers.

When someone raises pre flop, they are "2 betting", when someone re-raises, that's a 3 bet. Now when you raised again with your queens, you were 4 betting, not 3 betting. You were making the third RAISE, but the 4th BET.
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Postby RedBarracuda » Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:47 pm

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Postby AlexMR » Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:23 pm

You 4bet and he 5bet all in. KK/AA almost like 99% of the times. It is really hard to not lose a ton when u have QQ and they have AA/K. You need a very solid read and even there u will end up losing at least 20% of your stack (conservative?).
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