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Postby Aisthesis » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:43 pm

I limp with QQT9sss OTB after 2 limpers (possible raise here, but I didn't--I think that's fairly borderline), SB completes.

Flop comes Q96 with diamond draw (I have spades). SB, who is imo one of the best PLO100 players (25/9 and major winner in my database) pots. All others fold. I have $194, SB has about the same.

I decide to try the call line here with position.

What does he have? Well, he can definitely have a lower set or top 2, but also a strong draw, of which there are a few. While a lot of the 100 players will tip their hands with a sub-pot bet on a draw, I don't think this guy will.

Turn makes diamonds with 5d. SB checks, and I pot. He CRs pot, and I fold.

Opinions?

Despite the result, I think I rather like my line here. It puts a lot of pressure on lower flushes. I don't think he can make the CR without the nut flush, really.

I did have some second thoughts after the hand about possibly taking the free card, but I really don't particularly care for that option the more I think about it, although I'm not completely sure how to approach the river if he check-calls. I'll probably need to fire again.

I'm also not sure about playing the nut flush the way he presumably did. The way I'm playing my hand doesn't look at all like a set imo, so I'm not sure that a check-call line isn't superior in the hope that I'll bluff a blank river (basically, it's at least unusual for me to have more than 4 outs here). Admittedly, it creates problems for him on paired boards.
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Postby briachek » Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:42 pm

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Postby Spank_her_Pair » Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:16 am

looks pretty standard. Only way you are ahead is if he is bluffing the stiff ace of diamonds.
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Postby Aisthesis » Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:25 am

True, another very logical hand for him here is AA with Ad (with or without real flush on the turn).
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:42 am

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Postby Aisthesis » Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:29 am

The main reason I didn't raise is that there was at least one player who had limped early who will always re-raise AA, which of course he doesn't have to have. I think I can call a re-raise with this hand, but I don't really like it. If it had been even just QQJ9 with 3 to a suit to make the small difference of being placed a little better with straight draw, I probably would have...although I suppose the straight placement matters less in a HU raised pot with position.
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:01 pm

Yeah, with 2 limpers I think it's fine to limp. I don't honestly think it's a huge decision either way and depends a bit on the table texture and how aggressive you are postflop (for instance, I think it's a better raise in a slightly tighter, more passive environment where you can win a lot of flops uncontested, and control your thinner draw/overpair-type matchups better with position against a single opponent who plays predictably).
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