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Postby vitti » Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:55 am

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (6 handed) from (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

CO ($10.90)
Button ($17.60)
SB ($18.65)
BB ($96.25)
UTG ($24.25)
Hero ($24.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with QImage, QImage, 9Image, JImage.
UTG raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, 1 fold, Button calls $0.85, 2 folds.

Flop: ($2.90) 3Image, QImage, KImage (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.8, Button raises to $11.2, UTG folds, Hero raises to $19.6, Button calls $5.55 (All-In).

Turn: ($36.40) KImage (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($36.40) KImage (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $36.40

should i've folded the flop? :O
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Postby pokerzen » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:39 am

Meh, it's not the end of the world but that re-raise should have the alarm bells going.

I generally opt for pot-size control in situations like this. Betting the flop is standard ... dropping the hand to the re-raise might have been a good idea ... you've probably got about a 30% chance of bringing down the pot against an average villain's range. The best case scenario is that villain is pushing a naked flush draw. In a horrible but possible scenario he's holding some crazy monster like [Ad] [Kd] [Kh] [Th]. That won't happen very much, but clearly if he is holding that or something approaching it in value ... you're screwed.
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Postby Kuso » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:45 am

welcome to btp, vitti.

honestly, you really need a read here. against players who will push their big draws (e.g., wrap + fl draw here), then i think you can go to the felt on this board. of course, players who will push any set (or even top 2pr) or any flush draw are also good to get it in against. my personal experience at 50plo and lower is that the flop raise represents top set more often than not, and i'd only go against that default read if i had information that told me this specific player could have less.

if you don't have reads, then i recommend you player SUPER-tight for a few rounds while trying to get some basic feel for what kinds of hands people are playing, showing down, and jamming.
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Postby vitti » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:51 am

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Postby Ojingo » Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:34 pm

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Postby Kuso » Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:58 pm

wwcrd?

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Postby Ojingo » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:37 pm

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Postby briachek » Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:00 pm

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Postby Felonius_Monk » Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:57 pm

Agree with Ojingo. Also, don't fold this IMO. You're just giving up too much by folding 2nd set to aggression when there's virtually no money left to bet. If the stacks are deeper, I see it as more of an option.
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